and cleveland was 17-65 that year.

we did have a good gameplan in the 1st quarter, getting our first 15 points from our frontcourt. but 10 turnovers in the 1st half isn't going to cut it.

i could live with jarvis if he consistently scored off the bench, to make up for his defense...but when he's not scoring either, the only thing he provides are a couple rebounds here and there.