I like the Redwings and the recent Pistons model. Just be in serious contention every year. While we are sceptical about the Pistons, I think that most everyone here believes they have a shot at it. It's just that there are some other really good teams and we are realistic about the notion that our team will have to "peak" at the right time to bring it home-- like we did in '04. That is the way that it should be though in a league with some parity. That is what makes MLB and NFL so much fun. Your team is playing the undefeated Patiots who are on the verge of being annointed the best team in history, and your team peaks and man handles them.

If you told me right now that the Pistons have a 20% chance of winning the title, then I'll agree with that and be happy with it.

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"I’ll just say this: We’re not talking to teams about their second- or third-best players." Joe Dumars talking about his plan to get other teams' 4th best players.