To this point, Flip is being severly outcoached by Mike Brown. Hopefully Flip has counter adjustments, but ever since Mike Brown has made the following lineup a big part of the rotation they have been killing us...

PG- Damon Jones
SG- Flip Murray (or Hughes)
SF- Lebron
PF- Marshall
C- Varejao

Unlike Snow or Hughes, Damon Jones has to be covered on the perimeter, so Billups/Rip can't help off them. Marshall takes Sheed out of the paint and stops him from help defending on Lebron and rotating to Varejao/Z when Ben goes to help on Lebron. Varejao is the kicker. He has killed us on Ben's double teams every single time he steps on the floor.

Mo Evans had one of his top 5 games of the season, Flip, but he's not a power forward, and he doesn't intimidate in the paint. Remember DD? Anyone?

Whichever way this game turns out, this was an absolutely brilliant performance from Rip Hamilton. Ben Wallace played huge at times as well.

Sheed was clearly affected by the injury, and the "MVP" let Eric Snow get into his head as usual.

There doesn't seem to be any kind of gameplan. The Pistons just freelance.

So much for Guaransheed. They are chanting it now. Wonderful.

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Thank you for another great season!

I love you, Flip.

Well, I'm definitely concerned now. The Pistons showed no heart and no brains at all in the 4th quarter. Really, really bad loss. Cleveland wasn't playing all that well either, certainly not Lebron, missing shots and bricking FTs all over the place. But the Pistons gave it to them anyway.

This is where LB would have a good set ready for the last 5 posesions. Flip's brilliant play? Let my two non-knowing-how to penetrate -guards just go one on one! The coach and a weakazz talkin power Forward lost this game for us! Sheed better avg 22PPG from here out , but in my mind he lost a lot of fans and he may have lost a little of himself.

The players have gotten arrogant and think they are better than they really are. You don't win games by just showing up!!

Maybe this loss and being 2-2 will straighten these guys out. They created a series when they could have had the last game. The Cavs would have been deflated being 3 down. In the playoffs every game counts and the Pistons pissed away Game 3.

Kind of a scary loss if you ask me. James shoots just 8 of 23 and the Pistons still can't win. Chauncey was flat-out horrible. I'm guessing his head has been reduced to its normal, preseason size. Tay was good in stretches. Rip was the only warrior although Ben played hard as usual. Bench letting the team down big time. They produced seven points tonight. They have 16 in the last two games. I felt Flip was outcoached. Brown had Gooden, Z and Marshell on the bench so he must have known the right guys to have in there. He went small and they beat us. Time to make adjustments for Game 5. I hope Sheed is OK. Detroit will need him. They have to get back to the great ball movement they had early on during the season. Right now, they are moving backward. And there's no way Rip is gonna get that foul at the end. No way. If that's what Detroit was hoping for, you gotta be kidding me. The Pistons' strength in these playoffs have been the open 3. That's what they should have tried. If you're hoping to drive to the hoop and get a foul, you're dreaming. Most refs swallow the whistle with 10 seconds to play. If that was Flip's grand plan, he's outta his league.

Also, some fans may have seen this as biased on the referees' part. I don't think so. Cleveland was whistled for more fouls. Detroit went to the line more than Cleveland did. The NBA conspiracy thing doesn't explain tonight's loss in my mind.

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Sickening. Fire Flip. I don't care about the championship this year. Trade Chauncey and Rasheed. They're overrated. H***, trade the whole team for a second round pick. . Wait. I'm overreacting-- Wait! I'm not! F*** the refs. Did you see that shi*?

GREAT GAME!!!

Oh wait a second. No it wasn't. Actually, it was a pathetic performance from a "championship caliber" team. A "4th Quarter" team. A team that "closes out games". "Unflappable", blah blah blah.

My game 5 wish list:

- Bring back LB
- Get Sheet a muzzel
- play like its game 7