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flips hands are sorta tied. the one move he could make that would give us an edge he really can't do because it would upset ben wallace. that mcdyess and rasheed lineup is our best lineup against miami because miami can't sag in the paint. ben is really making me mad. this guy deserves a sign and trade. we miss dmc.
Ben did NOTHING wrong this game. He 14 rebounded and stayed in there with Diesel. The thing is if we gonna play this poorly , u might as well use the bench. When Shaq went out with 3, Ben stayed in the rest of the half! What did Flip do to help a tired team in the 3rd? Nothing ....But here are my Leecraps to this game:

1. Hunter needs to stop playing on speed or meth. As much as he won the game in the 1st half, he lost it in the 2nd.
2, Sheed was lifeless. Totally lifeless. All i can say to him is "SHHH!"
3. CB and Rip were high. Did anyone even guard them tonight? Our guards were 16-48. Their guards ? 20-26!!!!!! FREEK!


we HAVE 2 take Games 2 and 3...The players have saved Flip's azs up to now. He owes his team two.
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Well well well.

Can I get a clarification on whether Billups-bashing is in fact allowed here? If not, I'll stick to bashing Mr. Twitchy.
bash away. he had a really bad game today. i do like that he was much more aggressive though. his shot will come around. flip needs to use the bench we were obviously tired tonight.
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And it appears I was right about Prince after all, although bballjay is wrong - Ben Wallace, while ineffective for parts of the game, was far from the biggest problem. And Darko Milicic's benchwarming hardly brought any energy or basketball IQ to the game - unless he was some kind of reservoir to suck the lethargy and stupidity out of the other players.
ben wasn't our biggest problem but he was a problem. we couldn't hit outside shots. so with ben in the game we can't drive to the hole or post up either. i just don't understand how we were one shot and out the whole game with shaq playing so much help defense. ben should have been diving to the front of the rim everytime shaq left him.

flip's hands are tied he just simply can't take ben wallace out the game or we will lose him to free agency. even riley was smart enough to take shaq out when we started fouling him. to say flip isn't that smart isn't right. i think flip just knew that it would hurt ben's ego and maybe ben wouldn't resign next year.

dmc wouldn't have helped because he wouldn't get in the floor. but that's like saying tony delk, lindsey hunter, dale davis, cato. mo evans or carlos delfino can't help us. the problem isn't our bench it's flip being unwilling to use them.
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Go head bash CB. I am gettin tired of his act in this playoffs. He looks totally lost out there. Can't believe he was mentioned as an MVP candidate with Nash. Nash is much better. Pistons gave away game they could have won with even a mediocre offensive performance.

33% shooting . Everybody has colluded to collectively go stone cold. The bright side is that Miami didn't look that scary. I look for a win on Thursday. Joe please get a few scorers and jump shooters. In some ways the Pistons brough this on themselves by not getting another reliable scorer off the bench and letting the Cavs series go 7 games.

NO PANIC, JUST PISSED!!
Two words...GRANT HILL
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This is what happens. It's what we've become used to.

Sloppy, lethargic and lazy play. Actually running hard and challenging when the game is out of reach.

The Heat smelled blood in the second half and stole homecourt advantage in the series.

Was anyone good for the Pistons? Dale Davis was sharp for 4 seconds, and Hunter brought energy. Mo Evans also managed to score without screwing anything up.

This team needs a heart. And a pulse. And some competitive drive. Can someone text message the Wizard of Oz?

It's the big round. One step away from the title match. Not the time to let games slip away. Lousy job by the coaches (again) utilizing timeouts and the bench. Terrible job by the starters (excepting Ben) bringing any energy, shooting or defense.

Everyone keeps saying the Pistons are tired. Bullcrap. There is no time for tired. No room for excuses. They wasted friendly whistles and home court advantage. They had the big 2 for Miami buried with fouls and couldn't close the deal. Because NO ONE stepped up on offense and played with courage. Drives to the hoop looking for fouls instead of finishing with aggression.

Can we win Game 2? Maybe. But with this team, you never know. Maybe they need to be down 3-0 before they get serious about winning.
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Ben did NOTHING wrong this game. He 14 rebounded and stayed in there with Diesel. The thing is if we gonna play this poorly , u might as well use the bench. When Shaq went out with 3, Ben stayed in the rest of the half! What did Flip do to help a tired team in the 3rd? Nothing ....But here are my Leecraps to this game:
ben is no threat on offense so miami sags and clogs up the paint. with us not hitting outside shots that is a real big problem. that means no driving and no posting up cause ben's man will double or play zone and give weak side help. ben may have rebounded but he was giving no weaks side help. i saw miami drive to the hoop plenty of times with no ben wallace to help at all. if ben isn't blocking shots and rebounding he has no business on the floor. against shaq and miami shaq is unstoppable so it makes no sense playing ben major minutes cause shaq will score on him just as easily as mcdyess or maxiell.

when shaq went out flip should have went to the mcdyess and sheed combo. miami was having loads of trouble with mcdyess down in the post.
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Two words...GRANT HILL
flip would say he's going to play him then he wouldn't hit the court.
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Flip is too much of a players coach. If us arm chair QB's can see the defensive and offensive problems I am sure he does too. Why doesn't he get in their faces? Bench some of the starters and play the bench. Better to lose with energy than give games away.

Let's hire Leyland.

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ben is no threat on offense so miami sags and clogs up the paint. with us not hitting outside shots that is a real big problem. that means no driving and no posting up cause ben's man will double or play zone and give weak side help. ben may have rebounded but he was giving no weaks side help. i saw miami drive to the hoop plenty of times with no ben wallace to help at all. if ben isn't blocking shots and rebounding he has no business on the floor. against shaq and miami shaq is unstoppable so it makes no sense playing ben major minutes cause shaq will score on him just as easily as mcdyess or maxiell.

when shaq went out flip should have went to the mcdyess and sheed combo. miami was having loads of trouble with mcdyess down in the post.
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when shaq went out flip should have went to the mcdyess and sheed combo. miami was having loads of trouble with mcdyess down in the post.
Sheed did squat besides hit a 3 in this game. He just wasted space.
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This is what happens. It's what we've become used to.

Sloppy, lethargic and lazy play. Actually running hard and challenging when the game is out of reach.

The Heat smelled blood in the second half and stole homecourt advantage in the series.

Was anyone good for the Pistons? Dale Davis was sharp for 4 seconds, and Hunter brought energy. Mo Evans also managed to score without screwing anything up.

This team needs a heart. And a pulse. And some competitive drive. Can someone text message the Wizard of Oz?

It's the big round. One step away from the title match. Not the time to let games slip away. Lousy job by the coaches (again) utilizing timeouts and the bench. Terrible job by the starters (excepting Ben) bringing any energy, shooting or defense.

Everyone keeps saying the Pistons are tired. Bullcrap. There is no time for tired. No room for excuses. They wasted friendly whistles and home court advantage. They had the big 2 for Miami buried with fouls and couldn't close the deal. Because NO ONE stepped up on offense and played with courage. Drives to the hoop looking for fouls instead of finishing with aggression.

Can we win Game 2? Maybe. But with this team, you never know. Maybe they need to be down 3-0 before they get serious about winning.
Right on Micro. I don't buy the tired excuse. In the playoffs every game should be played with intensity and heart. I never thought a blue collar team like the Pistons could ever get out worked. Where is the goin to work mentality?
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