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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

On the backup PG thing... what the person on the forum protection list may want to consider is that these guys are playing minor minutes... I would hope that the positive plays would also be mentioned (instead of just the bad X10)... I saw a steal by Hunter leading to a Flip facial on Hinney...... I saw some nice inside drives and kick-outs (or score) by Murray.... sure nuff they weren't very good tonight... but besides Prince who was?
Balanced opinions will always be respected more.
It sure looked like the starters gave up most of the points differential before the reserves got in.... but then again it could be that "Pistons only leg fatigue syndrome".
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

We just didn't play it like a playoff game. Hard to stay with the petal to the metal when up 3-0.

Tuesday we should see a return to playoff basketball.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

More games = more risk of injuries.
Has ne1 noticed the beating that Lebron is taking in the NJ series?... Carter also.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

Can you blame Riley/Saunders for using Hack-Ben considering how highly effective it was last year? In this game it snuffed out a nice Piston rally. Down by 7 with 2.4 to go we probably would have lost anyway. So I would not focus on that as the main reason why we lost.

I had almost forgotten what a 7-game series feels like. At least its not the 04 2nd round where we were 2-2 at this point with a pending loss in game 5 to follow. This year game #5 is an elimination game.

With all the things the Bulls were doing right and all the things the Pistons were doing wrong the Pistons were still in it. Cut the gap by 12 to almost steal this one. If the Pistons had made more FT's or if just 2 of those many misses had went in then it would be a different story right now.

Well, The new Pistons had just swept their 1st series against Orlando and it did not happen this time. Thats just the way it goes.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

I don't think fouling Ben led to the Pistons loss but I hate the hack-a-Shaq strategy. I didn't notice 'Dyess fouling Ben until the commentators pointed it out and I just let out a big sigh. I would have preferred Detroit play good defense. Oh, well...

Definitely the best play of the game was Flurray's dunk over Hinrich and then staring him down like he was the %%%%. lol Oh, Flurray...

Loved Maxiell's play, too. And Tay had a solid game, as usual. I can't believe 'Sheed took 12 3's! One player taking double digit 3's is too much unless you're hitting a lot of them early. Which...he...didn't...

Remember the poll that was posted prior to this series about which player/coach would be the first to be ejected? Huh. Only 2 techs through the first 4 games. We had more than that in the first half of Game 3 of the Orlando series! Kinda crazy...
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

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Post game pressers.

Tay looked and sounded like he was stoned. But I really liked his suit.
I don't understand your reasoning about this. It was perfectly understandable and actually quite accurate:
  • Detroit is usually very loose.
  • Detroit play weak and without intensity.
  • They did not have a strong finish.
  • The announcer was asking simplistic questions and notice his last comment.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

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hack-a-ben is most definitely Flip's biggest flop of the post season to date.
Why? Everyone should know the odds are in your favor putting ben on any foul line.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

Missed the first half as the TV at the mothers day brunch restaurant was to far away to figure what was going on. Did get back to a real TV to see half the third and the feverish comeback in the 4th.

I think they were down 7 with 3:20 to go before that unchallenged Gordon three ball put the Bulls up 10, and Flip panicked and went into a totally un-necessary hack-a-ben mode. I think they could have trimmed that 10 pt lead back to possible one possession game with a minute left if they had stuck to the plan and continued to attack inside and send someone to the FT line for some and 1 possibilities. Also they panicked with the three ball>throwing those up to early and to often. In fact, if they had concentrated in the paint unstead of hoisting up 25 three balls, they may have won the game. Somebody tell me why Sheed took four 2 point basket attempts and twelve 3 pointers?? Did he do anything in the paint or did Ben intimidate him. Did Cwebb miss the plane to Chicago? Hopefully he is back at the palace practicing his jumper (IN THE PAINT). Brotha needs to be play the post and contain. zero points two games in row??? That hasn't happen since his first two games at Country Day High!!

The three ball and lack of defense defending the three is the the reason why the Warriors are one game away from going fishing

Like I said, I mssed the first half and will have to review the Tivo or NBA TV, or ESPN at midnight, but how much did the foul trouble affect the Rip and CB's play? Looks to me that the Bulls hit the shots they needed and they beat us in the paint by 16. I think as Deng, Gordon and Heinrich played the like they were supposed to, so give them some credit there.

Looks like the Pistons were going through the motions and thought they could turn it on in the 4th but came up short. Hopefully game one's intensity on both the offensive and defensive end will return on Tuesday and they can rest up for the next opponent.

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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

A very telling ending for the bulls. Up by 20+ and they barely hung on. Ben Gordon's three when Detroit had it under 10 in the fourth was the killer blow.

The bulls may be young and talented, but it looks like they have some serious leadership voids. With game in hand, they continuously choked and every player (except for Ben) had an even hand in it.

I've got a feeling that this is probably going to be the last lousy game the pistons show in the playoffs.
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Re: 2nd Round Game 4 - At Chicago May 13 3:30PM

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Why? Everyone should know the odds are in your favor putting ben on any foul line.
After seeing what he did against Miami, and considering the fact that we didn't use that tactic at all to cut the 24 point lead to 7 in such a short period of time. It just felt like bad timing. You use hack-a-ben when you can't stop their offense, or when the momentum is going the other way. We had momentum on our side, and that killed it. Stopped the flow of the game and put the game out of reach.

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