ECF Game 1 Cleveland May 21 8PM - Page 11 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community

Nemo · #**101** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 09:30 AM

The game was much too close. I thought we were going to have a "Premature Evacuation" of this series. Ilgauskas really played hard out there. Going with rebounding and defense really works for the Cavs. Glad they didn't score much. Glad to see that Flip used his bench. JMax was certainly a good option.

st8ofmind · #**102** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by professor

didn't see the first quarter.
i know we dodged a bullet on marshall's missed 3.
i agree that we should never have been in that position.
we played badly and still won.
we gutted it out.
that makes me happy.
i'm not sure sheed did the wrong thing (if he doesn't come toward lbj, then lbj goes to the rack with a half step on tayshaun and maybe finishes and gets a free throw; or if lbj misses and there's no call the weak side board is cleveland's.).
if marshall shoots that three 1000 times, i'd say he makes 351 of them. oh, wait, it's the playoffs. 381 of them. okay, maybe sheed shoulda stayed home.
i don't know.
brahma. should play more. whenever v is in.
z alone will not beat us (2nd half).
z + v can make it close (1st half).
i really despise V. everything he does looks like an accident. including running.
i say bring in dale just to break V's knees. i'll feel less irritated.
sheed (post-game): so articulate and intelligent. i think he reads a lot. i mean it.
lebron is a sissy. and i hate him too.
i hate that the announcers couldn't stop talking about him. most egregious instance: rip hits his 24th point of the game on a jumper (or maybe his 20th) and they are talking about how lbj will probably still wind up the leading scorer. no mention of rip's j.
good d.
cwebb has heart (spirit is willing, but flesh is weak).
sheed: a beast.
rip: sweet shooting.
cbill: a liability til the end, then he got it together.
hunter: ehhhh.
don't stop moving the ball.
for the umpteenth time: we're better than these guys. but not if we don't show up for 48 minutes.

Wha...Wha...Wha...What?

I'm looking for it.

Nice to see Max step way up, is Dyess healthy? He seems way out of whack with his confidence/flow/everything right now.

Re: Sheed on Marshall, that was not a good sign with Expletiv'ing Robert Expletive Horry the Expletive likely awaiting the Stones.

st8ofmind · #**103** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

The Cavs probably feel good about the next game, figuring that at least now the Pistons have to key in on Ilgauskas which will open up things a bit for LeBron.

Hopefully the Pistons players and staff realize that all they need to do to limit Big Z's production is to do a better job on the defensive glass.

What a MONSTER game from Sheed last night....WOW.

I agree, Sheed needed 2 wheelbarrows for his huevos grandes.

He was the only guy "fully competing" for some long stretches in both halves.

Let's put 'the switch' to rest for him at least.

Slippy · #**104** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 10:29 AM

http://pistons.realgm.com/articles/1...now_theyre_on/

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Rasheed Wallace is a bit of a head-case, but Tayshaun Prince, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton and Chris Webber are smart guys. They know the price they will inevitably pay.

Whats with the arbitrary Sheed dig?

jzchen · #**105** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 10:36 AM

7.

Stone's MVP in the 1st half - RIP. Without his scoring to keep us within distance we would have lost the game

Stone's MVP in the 2nd half - Sheed and CB. Strong 3rd quarter from CWebb and Rip.

Tay only 1-11 from the field. Hey, I'll take this stat line the entire series if he can keep Bron with the 5-15 stat line and no FT attempts. Tay has 9 asst which is a minimum 18 pts in the bag.

DD and JMax is the unsung heroes. Dice need to start making shots. At least 45% will help a lot. Did Dice peak too soon (was like 60% from the field towards end of season).

Need to draw more fouls on Big Z and Sideshow Bob the next game.

TaShawn · #**106** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Warthog

i'll have my hog blog later in the morning, but to quickly answer your question, it was not a clear path foul, and the pistons were not in the bonus yet.

I know what the call was, I'm just wondering if they screwed it up.

Why was it not a clear path foul? Because he didn't have possession, right?

So why were they able to foul a player without possession with < 2 minutes to go in the game?

Javie.

**max** · #**107** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by basketbills

7.

I'll guess this wasn't a popular game for the general NBA fan but I'll take it. I think LeBron would have been praised as a great team player who has finally grown into a facilatator etc.etc.etc. if Marshall would have knocked down that wide open three. But he missed it so LeBron should have shot it.

Dyess was missing shots that were automatic the second half of the season...that's troubling.

I can't believe I am defending LBJ here. If Marshall made that shot then the Cavs would have won and LBJ would have gotten a triple-double 10-10-10.

TaShawn - The only explanation I can think of was that the Cavs were not in the penalty yet.

Roscoe - Agree about Webber. Maybe he has hit the wall? Did not play much before comming here and he was thrown in for a lot of minutes.

st8ofmind · #**108** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

I know what the call was, I'm just wondering if they screwed it up.

Why was it not a clear path foul? Because he didn't have possession, right?

So why were they able to foul a player without possession with < 2 minutes to go in the game?

Javie.

Loose ball foul?

Doesn't one team have to have clear possession for the anti Hack a Shaq/Ben rule to kick in?

st8ofmind · #**109** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by max

I can't believe I am defending LBJ here. If Marshall made that shot then the Cavs would have won and LBJ would have gotten a triple-double 10-10-10.

TaShawn - The only explanation I can think of was that the Cavs were not in the penalty yet.

Roscoe - Agree about Webber. Maybe he has hit the wall? Did not play much before comming here and he was thrown in for a lot of minutes.

Not so fast...

Detroit could have advanced the ball with nearly 3 seconds left.

TaShawn · #**110** (**permalink**) 05-22-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by max

TaShawn - The only explanation I can think of was that the Cavs were not in the penalty yet.

I concede that they were not in the bonus. But you can't foul Shaq off the ball with < 2 minutes and not give the other team free throws... even if you still have a foul to give.

I'm just going to assume they botched the call.

However, the 0 free throws for LeBron + the sweep of the Heat + the suspensions of the Suns players is making me reconsider all the conspiracy theory stuff. Maybe they are taking a break from the rigging. It must be exhausting trying to control everything.

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