In my eyes it's the coaches job to not allow that to happen. Get some damn discipline in their. I know a lot of the high school coaches for every sport in our high school. Only about 1 or 2 of those coaches would allow the team to say crap like that whether it be basketball, football, hockey, soccer, or freaking track.

Don't know how the Spurs collapsed so badly for most of the 4th quarter. LeBron had a shot to get them within 6 with about 4 minutes left, but he missed, and they never got any closer than 8 after that. But I still don't think this one's going to last beyond Game 5 at the most.

Exactly. If he knew he would be playing them 40+ mins then he should have been having them doing wind sprints getting them in shape. Either that or play the stupid bench that you supposidly gave up reg seasons wins to develope.

Cavs are getting exposed.

If someone gets a hold of the ratings then please post them.

The thing about this game that really made my blood boil was the last few minutes when Lebron got the ball at the top of the key, he was doubled. If he got it back, they doubled him again to get it out of his hands.

A simple defensive strategy that our stupid coach couldn't figure out that not only cost us Game 5, but ultimately the series.

He's such a gimmick coach, it's ridiculous.

go spurs.

To me, game 2 highlighted the Stern rules and how it is damaging the greatest game in the world.

First, there is a team, the Cavs, who are a product of the rules (Le Bron). Le Bron's game needs the penetration fouls to excel. So Stern got the team (the Cavs) in place of the Pistons and obviously, be careful what you wish for. Notice Le Bron is far from polished when he can't get to the hoop constantly and not a great shooter consistently.

Early, Le Bron does a 360 as Ginoble backs away (I seen Tay do this). Foul.

Z misses a bunny near the hoop. So he falls around Duncan. Foul. The replay showed that Duncan had BACKED AWAY.

But here's the kicker. Just when the Cavs are back in it, Parker walks in to the hoop for a key score. I mean he walks, step after step. The replay showed about 6-7 steps. Amazing what you can do when you don't have to dribble.

This is not to take the Pistons off the hook. No offense. No adjustment coaching. Poor additions the last 2 years by management.

But hey, Sheed was trying to tell us something and I actually applaud him for it. He used the work "cheating." It isn't cheating, it is written in the rules.

Pop made some interesting comments on NBA tv about the rules. He questions how a guy can get a call driving into the lane with little or no chance to make a basket simply by throwing himself at the defender. That is the crux of the problem. The only thing you can do is try and take one of those phoney charges. Either way, it makes a mockery of the game.

Wade perfected the flying backward routine last year.

That play in game 5 late where Le Bron fell backward was a huge call. It only takes a few calls like those to put the entire defense on its toes.

Of course, our defensive plan allowed Le Bron to do the rest.

LA, you make some excellent points. Your point about Bron's game not being polished yet is right on the mark, even if the NBC announcers are unwilling to say it.

Regarding Pop's remarks about the anomaly in today's rules, I think the analogue to this is the pass interference call in football. If the ball isn't catchable, the offensive team does not get the call even if there was impermissible contact.

I'm with ya. IMO the talent Pops has is no better than the Pistons, but he has their respect...something Flip has not earned from his players over the course of 2 seasons.

"Joe!...Cut the anchor loose!"

sigh

What you have to ask yourself is will things change if Flip stays. The answer is clear. Things won't change. Flip has to many flaws in his coaching. When he fixes one thing then another one of those flaws will be seen.

Lets see how this Pistons team has done under Flip

Offense

LB: B+ I don't care if the Pistons scored in the 80's. They scored when it was needed.

Flip: B- He has us scoring more points, but their is nothing inside. Jumpers don't tend to go down in the playoffs buddy.

Defense:

LB: A The Pistons were the best defensive team in the league under LB

Flip: C- Huge drop off. No boards, easily penetrated, getting beat by one man teams. The list goes on.

Respect:

LB: A He had these guys listening to every word he says

Flip: D+ He had these guys on board early, but yet again his methods failed come playoff time.

Winning:

LB: A+: This Pistons team overachieved in 04 and almost won back to back in 05.

Flip: D: This Pistons team has underachieved for the last 2 seasons. Regular season means nothing Flip

Playing all Players: (This is the one thing I expected to improve)

LB: C-: He had a small rotation. At least it got the job done.

Flip D+: You didn't do it your first year and you lose, so you do the same thing again??

Overall:

LB=: B+, A, A, A+, C-

Overall: A-

Flip=: B-, C-, D+, D, D+

Overall: C-

He did worse in everything. EVERYTHING.

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