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lpgrl26 · #21 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 04:36 AM

I now love Micheal Rosenberg.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, it sorta relates to Game 4/this series, and i put it here b/c i felt like more ppl would read it rather than articles worth mentioning.

Flip Saunders surely to lose job if Pistons lose to Sixers | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

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Flip Saunders is coaching for his Pistons career now. He might not like it; he might not even fully realize it. But if the Pistons lose two more games to the 76ers, Saunders surely will be an ex-Pistons coach.

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This isn't way down the road. It's lurking around the corner. It would be so, so easy for Joe Dumars to replace Saunders with Pistons assistant Michael Curry.
When teams fire a coach, they tend to hire somebody whose strengths make up for the previous coach's weaknesses. Saunders has struggled to relate to his players. Curry, a 39-year-old former Pistons captain, would have a much easier time. Under Saunders, the Pistons have lost some of their old defensive identity; Curry built a lengthy playing career without any discernible offensive skills, simply because of his defense.

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Late in Saunders' first season, I asked Ben Wallace when the Pistons became Flip's team. His sarcastic response: "Whose team?"

Ben left for Chicago (and more money) after that season. His fellow Wallace, Rasheed, has never quite taken to Flip. The Rasheed-Flip dynamic is the most closely watched, but it is not isolated; other Pistons seem to treat Saunders with less than the optimum amount of respect.
I'm not sure all of this is fair. But it's reality. Saunders is stuck in a place where all of his key players have accomplished more than he has, and they know it.

CloudWalker · #22 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 04:43 AM

I predicted that Curry was next in line in Chat, and people thought I was crazy.

I might be crazy ...

...but thats besides the point.

Luke Slippywalker · #23 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 05:14 AM

Well we're going to win so thats a moot point.

CloudWalker · #24 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke Slippywalker

Well we're going to win so thats a moot point.

I think we'll get all the way to the ECF's before we get pulverized.

Nothing as good as a first round knockout can happen to us.

roscoe36 · #25 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

I predicted that Curry was next in line in Chat, and people thought I was crazy.

Do you have any idea how much crazy stuff gets said in chat?

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Originally Posted by Luke Slippywalker

Well we're going to win so thats a moot point.

Atta boy!

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

Nothing as good as a first round knockout can happen to us.

You/we must be the toughest fans on the planet. It's kinda cool.

roscoe36 · #26 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lpgrl26

I now love Micheal Rosenberg.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, it sorta relates to Game 4/this series, and i put it here b/c i felt like more ppl would read it rather than articles worth mentioning.

Flip Saunders surely to lose job if Pistons lose to Sixers | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Rosie is a known organization mouth piece. If he's carrying this story, this way, it means that the Pistons are setting the stage from a propaganda viewpoint to let Saunders go.

Who knows when Flip lost the team exactly, but this article says to me, that Flip has now lost Dumars. He's no longer under the corporate veil of excuse making.

On the flip side (pardon the pun), it means the players might be getting a pass.

raxrets · #27 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 10:38 AM

Problem is that at the same time players have not demonstrated that they are actully "better" than coach or deserve better fate. Starters who decide to take every third game off are not worth of much.

Starters may think that they need more capable people around them but their have done NOTHNIG to encourage this process: why one good coach should wish to waste his time to complacent, maybe past their prime players?

I believe that now I have brought a new point of view to coach/players discussion.

PistonFanInCavsTown · #28 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 10:42 AM

Sheed better show up for this game. In game 3 he looked like a 2nd grader playing in a midseason rec. league game after his dad told him he couldn't quit basketball.

My wife asked me if I was going to wear my Pistons shirt today. I actually had to think about it. I mean, if they don't seem to care about the playoffs then why should I? They could be down 0-3 to the Cavs and I'd proudly wear my shirt here in Cleveland if they played hard in all 3 losses. But to be down 1-2 to the f-ing 76ers when the only reason is that they've played without heart in those 2 losses is indefensible.

detteam · #29 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe36

Do you have any idea how much crazy stuff gets said in chat?

Hey! Watch it buddy...I resemble that remark

Luke Slippywalker · #30 (**permalink**) 04-27-2008, 10:55 AM

IMO the worst thing that could happen is that we lose another ECF because it would give the illusion that we're still good enough. We either get to the finals and prove it or realize the window has closed.

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Starters may think that they need more capable people around them but their have done NOTHNIG to encourage this process: why one good coach should wish to waste his time to complacent, maybe past their prime players?

1. they need a job.
2. that in itself presents unique challenges. look a riley when he stuffed a bunch of broken,aging players with a history of causing problems around wade. all coaches deal with egos and motivation.