Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 3 Wed May 7 8PM - Page 12 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community

TaShawn · #**111** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:29 PM

Strain is better than a tear, right?

lpgrl26 · #**112** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raxrets

I absolutely do not care who played or who not. All what counts is who won and who lost.

You should care because in order to achieve the winning part, it DOES matter who plays.

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Starters didn't get it done and as long as davidson refuses to pay lux tax, our bench is filled with veteran minimum or rookie

Our bench is fine. Our rotations suck. Even our rotations of the starters suck. There's no accountabilty for getting the best possible shot or passing to the open man either/

lpgrl26 · #**113** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

Starting with the second most important thing first (perhaps) Rip, Tayshaun and Rasheed need to lose this little "club" mentality where they dominate the ball in between them and act like the other guys are supposed to be invisible out there.

Seriously, after the Magic jumped up on us by double digits I spent the rest of the game counting passes before shots, and toward the end I was pretty ticked off at the starters.

If this "mannequin offense" is what Flip is so famous for, somebody fetch me a bucket and about 10 feet of rope. I'm not even going to delude myself into thinking a championship will come out of that kind of ball movement (or lack thereof).

First and foremost this team played craptastic defense. And you know what? I happen to think that if you reward the guys like Afflalo and Maxey by passing them the ball every so often, perhaps they are content to cover your lousy perimeter defending butts when you let your guy penetrate at will.

Perhaps if the Magic truly believed that the Pistons would do something other than play two man basketball (3 tops) while the other guys stand perfectly still....
perhaps then some shots are less contested resulting in a made basket.. and you have time to actually set your defense on the other end.

This is the main problem with our offense. The defense knows exactly who to key in on, and we never punish them for overplaying b/c we don't pass 3/4 of the time anyway.

Delfino Delivers · #**114** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:48 PM

When Rip is on the floor with the bench he thinks he has to do it on his own. It is terrible. It can't be that he doesn't have confidence in them because he has seen what they can do. Watching him plow into the middle of the lane and flop around like a fish out of water while the rest of the team waits for the pass is killing me. He is not Kobe or Bron and the sooner he realizes he needs his teammates as much they need him; the sooner we can move on to our next victim.

It is not rocket science. Move the ball until you get an open, high percentage shot. Tay and Rip backing their man into the paint is NOT moving the ball!!!!

lurker · #**115** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:49 PM

ASB talked to Kander today:

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"I've seen about 2,000 hamstrings," said Arnie Kander, Detroit's strength and conditioning coach. "I look at this as being nothing more than what we've seen in the past. Because of the slowness of the movement; because of the nature of what occurred, him being able to pull out of it and the fact that he feels this morning the same as he did last night ... that's a great sign. Usually the next morning, you feel worse."

TaShawn · #**116** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:51 PM

I thought Tay was doing a pretty good job with those isolations yesterday. We ran the play about 5 times straight at one point. The shots looked tough, but he was making them.

Also, Turkoglu was 1-7 in the 2nd quarter and only had 1 rebound with Herrmann guarding him.

Until garbage time, Herrmann was +1.

Warthog · #**117** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:03 PM

i agree, i don't mind tay posting up constantly - he either gets a high percentage shot or draws an extra defender and hits one of our guys for an open look

lpgrl26 · #**118** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

I thought Tay was doing a pretty good job with those isolations yesterday. We ran the play about 5 times straight at one point. The shots looked tough, but he was making them.

Also, Turkoglu was 1-7 in the 2nd quarter and only had 1 rebound with Herrmann guarding him.

So who did he go off on then? Tay?

lapiston · #**119** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:49 PM

We need Billips back, period.

In the meantime:

They started to jam our offense up as far back as game 2. As usual, there does not seem to be an adjustment. We couldn't score at key times in game 3. They only have one big. There should be plenty of room on the floor to get open looks or drive.

Yes, we may as well turn Stuckey loose. But I have seen him blocked at least a few times in this series down low. At this stage of this career, he is not a star. He will have to learn quickly.

The defense has been atrocious since the second half of game 2. They are doing what they want. Howard is not that developed offensively. Certainly not enough to let them have open threes. To win without Billips, we will have to attack their offense with a defensive force. Sheed should get more time on Howard. Their guards need to be challenged, especially by the second unit. I mean scout this team. Jameer usually goes right. Hedo loves to go left. We will only prevail if we can step up and shut them down.

TaShawn · #**120** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lpgrl26

So who did he go off on then? Tay?

PopcornMachine's GameFlow - DET @ ORL

See if you can tell. I'm guessing Tay, but what stands out to me is Rashard abusing Hayes... and everyone else.

One thing that I am noticing is that most of their 3-point attempts are not coming from us double teaming Howard or their guards driving and dishing. It seems to me that most of it is off of chaos (semi fast breaks, offensive rebounds, etc.) and just plain pick setting on the perimeter.