No its not bordeline psychotic its someone's opinion.

Whats puzzling and painfull is watching both Theo and even Walter Herman promoted above Amir. I don't know, has it worked? Who played more in the reg season Herman or Amir? Who has shown that he can play D and is capable of giving you some offensive boards and some points in the paint?

Not saying its why we lost, it just does not make any sense.

At least he put Amir in for some G/T.
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Notice how well Herrmann guarded Turkaglu in the first half. I thought that was a pretty good adjustment to give Tay some rest. Also, Ratliff was pretty effective last game.

I've never thought it made sense to put in Hayes AND Herrmann though, as Flip did in the 2nd half. And I will always advocate Amir Johnson.

I honestly think that Orlando is a perfect team for Amir to play against. They have some tall 3-point shooters and only 1 big man. Let Amir use his speed and length to play help defense and still be able to close out on Turk or Lewis when they pick off the primary defender.


I know that we've all pointed out Hayes' flaws in the reg season, but did anyone expect him to be THIS ineffective in the playoffs? He's making Mo Evans/ Carlos Delfino look like greener grass right now.

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Yes, giving Theo and Hermann all of that playing time in place of Amir made no sense. A few minutes into the fourth, at the very least, Amir should have been brought into the game. Nothing else was working offensively or defensively, but Flip just was unable or unwilling to make any changes.

That opinion expressed by Lee is really out there. There is absolutely no factual basis to back up his opinion.

Flip may or may not like Dumars. But to suggest that he would intentionally do something to jeopardize his career and the team out of some petty dislike for his boss is ludicrous. You don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

I agree with Gazoo. Flip's just a crappy coach (my opinion). It doesn't go any deeper than that.

It really is baffling. I mean to the point of just being dumb-founded. While i don't believe Flip is doing it to spite Joe D,

Like you said he got PT this year, was complimented by Flip. His energy, D, and just general awesomeness was even waxed poetic by DET beat writers. The exact problems we were having are the exact things he can fix/help with.

Yet now he can't even get time in front of Hermann. You could say Flip just does not understand the value of defense which is true b/c even with the progress he's made with AA, he still can't seem to correlate stopping penetration with AA and sub accordingly, but in this type of game for Amir to not see any time ?

Amir even talked about matching up with Young. The newspapers talked about it. Flip talked about using our young athlethic players to match Philly's SF's playing PF. Hello, Rashard Lewis.

Max is great, but if Max is not great, there's someone equally (more IMO) great on the bench. This should be our strength having 2 young athletic bigs not a hinderance.

I mean it's reaching Darko levels of frustration at this point to where sometimes i can't watch the game b/c i just don't want to deal with the wacked out rotations and stress myself out.

If there was a reason, "I think he sucks, I'm allergic to him, He killed my dog" anything at this point i'd feel slightly better just knowing.

I love winning these PO games, but i can't help feeling like it's just a ticking time bomb, or a band-aid to cover up the flaws in our rotation.

When push comes to shove, Flip chokes, and then the players' talent overcomes or someone breaks their nose and we get a better line-up by default. I really don't want to see us go down 3-2, and then hear talk well maybe we should try Amir, and i really hope Chauncey's OK. I don't want to hear we lost this series b/c of that and Flip having an excuse, and i don't want to lose this series in general.

Has the PHO game been deleted from Flip's brain TIVO? b/c i'm just out of analysis at this point.

I have been quiet as I didn't want to gripe when we win. But I was not impressed with game 2. No, a team shouldn't be allowed to hit 7 straight 3's any more than Le Bron should have been allowed to go off last year in game 5. They got a bit into our offense in game 2 as well.

This game--no adjustments by the coaches. Orlando was pushing us around even before the Billips injury. And Billips was trying to do too much on that play. If he is out, we are in trouble even for this series. No, I don't feel we can really replace him right now.

No way this Orlando team should be able to score like they are. No way.

Question on all our minds: Is Billips coming back soon and at what capacity if he is?

Second, they have adjusted to us. Can our staff figure the Magic out? They are not chumps anymore. We have to make them play like chumps...

Even if it is the case Flip is ignoring Joe D's wishes regarding playing time for Amir and Afflalo, either in the playoffs as a whole or in this particular game, I agree with Darth that it is not plausible to think that Flip's motive would be "hatred" of Joe. Why not just stubbornness? Or a belief that he knows better?

This is exactly what i was worried about. Ron Jeremy is not an idiot.

Does it really matter what the reasons are as the results are the same?

Yep, same story. Matching down to them. Instead of using their 2 SF's against them we are matching down.

I missed the 1st quarter. Did the Billups injury look like an accident or was Nelson trying to trip him up?