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Originally Posted by Ernie the Slow Adult The papers make it sound like the team thinks Billups can play but ...

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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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The papers make it sound like the team thinks Billups can play but he isn't so sure. I think other players on the team would have tried to play last game when it happened. I guess that is life when you are a power PG who averages .75 rebounds per game.

What does Billups' rebounding average have to do with this injury?
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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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I would also like to point out a H-U-G-E blunder by Dumars and co. coming to light in this series. How much would Primoz Brezac be helping right now? The series would be over by now........
Huh? They basically swapped Brezec for Ratliff when those moves were made. I'm not sure what scenario you're envisioning here.
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Huh? They basically swapped Brezec for Ratliff when those moves were made. I'm not sure what scenario you're envisioning here.
Ernie's name appears very appropriate re: that post.
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I'd much rather see Hunter active. These guys HAVE to keep the dribble penetration to a minimum and Dixon hasn't been known for denying anybody anything.

Everytime ORL takes a 3, there's a Pistons no closer than 8-10 feet running like he missed the bus, waving his arms and hoping they miss....not really a sound defensive strategy if you ask me.
I agree, I don't know why we don't go smaller.

Rip can handle Lewis or Turkey for stretches @ the 3, just like Afflalo can.

Tay should be the 4 whenever Lewis is @ the 4.
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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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I would like to see both Hunter and Dixon activated. Maybe Hunter has another great game in him or maybe Dixon will get hot. Its going to be up to Flip to start pushing buttons out there until something clicks. The Pistons can still win without Billups as long as Prince and Rip step in to pick up the slack. They both can be and have been good ball distributors. It does not have to be all on Stucky to pick up the slack.
Don't forget Sheed in the post - he's a great passer from there. How he plays will be key to this game, too. If he abuses his man in the post then maybe a perimeter defender cheats over to him, setting up Hayes/Dixon for an open look. If he sets up along the 3pt arc most of the game then he's not helping.
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With Billups injured, can Flip afford to make the same mistake again?

We should be activating Hunter AND Dixon. Anything happens to stuckey or his backup, we need a 3rd PG.

In my mind, Amir is out with CB and Samb. You can't take out Jarvis because he's the backup SF, and you can't takeout Hermann because he backs up the bigs.
Scoe, please explain why you don't feel that our "back-up SF" can't be benched (am I missing some sarcasm? - I AM a little slow sometimes.).

I believe that AJ can contribute MUCH more in this series (with these match-ups) than Arvis.
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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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I'd much rather see Hunter active. These guys HAVE to keep the dribble penetration to a minimum and Dixon hasn't been known for denying anybody anything.
Well, my point is, you don't only go 2 men deep at arguably the most important position. So Hunter and Dixon must be active.

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Scoe, please explain why you don't feel that our "back-up SF" can't be benched (am I missing some sarcasm? - I AM a little slow sometimes.).
No sarcasm. Heaven forbid, what do we do if Tay gets injured? Play Hermann at the 3? What if he gets into foul trouble? Play AA at the 3?

I think we need to be 3 deep at every position, Sheed/Max/Rattler/Dice are swappable at the 4+5, with Hermann as the 5th PF. Tay, Jarvis and Walt backup the 3, Rip, Aff, Dix at the 2, and Stuckey, Hunter and Dix at the 1.

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I believe that AJ can contribute MUCH more in this series (with these match-ups) than Arvis.
AJ has limited range, can be foul prone and is a lousy perimeter defender. Jarvis has range on him at the 3.
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No sarcasm. Heaven forbid, what do we do if Tay gets injured? Play Hermann at the 3? What if he gets into foul trouble? Play AA at the 3?
• IMO: Yes. Play Walt @ SF (perfect size matchup with Turkey and Shard).

• And another "affirmative" for playing Spellcheck @ the 3 spot (his quickness would KILL TurkeyGlue or Lewis). - ANYTHING that keeps Arvis off of the floor is cool with me. The ONLY time he should see ANY action at all would be as a final-shot offensive substitution at the very end of quarters.

• I think Amir is a better match-up against the big SFs that Orlando has. Just because Flip hasn't played him at the 3 this year (which he should have), doesn't mean it's a crazy idea.

• ...and yes, Jarvis has range. He seems to be missing his shots (playoffs = 7 for 24)from a longer distance lately.
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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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• IMO: Yes. Play Walt @ SF (perfect size matchup with Turkey and Shard).

• And another "affirmative" for playing Spellcheck @ the 3 spot (his quickness would KILL TurkeyGlue or Lewis). - ANYTHING that keeps Arvis off of the floor is cool with me. The ONLY time he should see ANY action at all would be as a final-shot offensive substitution at the very end of quarters.

• I think Amir is a better match-up against the big SFs that Orlando has. Just because Flip hasn't played him at the 3 this year (which he should have), doesn't mean it's a crazy idea.

• ...and yes, Jarvis has range. He seems to be missing his shots (playoffs = 7 for 24)from a longer distance lately.
I concur on all points. It is not Arvis's range that is hurting us. It is the fact that he can't play D. Not only does his shooting percentage hurt us; he can't stop anybody from scoring.
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Re: Pistons/Magic 2nd Round Game 4 Sat May 10 5pm

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Well, my point is, you don't only go 2 men deep at arguably the most important position. So Hunter and Dixon must be active.
I can see that. I was mostly responding to folks who would rather see Dixon if only one got the nod.
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