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adonis · #31 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:12 PM

if CB is not 100% then we don't have to play him. We can afford to go back to Detroit with 2-2. I am also sure that the other series (Cavs Vs Celtics) will not be finished soon as well. So we will be ok. I hope this is what Flip does.

Ernie the Slow Adult · #32 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BillLaimbeer

What does Billups' rebounding average have to do with this injury?

It points out that he's a dandy boy.

max · #33 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 05:26 PM

I would say de-activate Wally and bring in Hunter. Then if Billups can't go then bring in Dixon.

Can Amir guard Turkoglu? I think he can. Not that it matters since Flip has already decided that Amir is not ready and even if he did play Rip and Tay would never pass him the ball. But if he did play and did get the ball then it would be nice to force the Magic to match up to us rather than us down to them. Not having a PF is supposed to be an advantage for the opposing team not a disadvantage.

Lee356 · #34 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoe36

Well, my point is, you don't only go 2 men deep at arguably the most important position. So Hunter and Dixon must be active.

No sarcasm. Heaven forbid, what do we do if Tay gets injured? Play Hermann at the 3? What if he gets into foul trouble? Play AA at the 3?

I think we need to be 3 deep at every position, Sheed/Max/Rattler/Dice are swappable at the 4+5, with Hermann as the 5th PF. Tay, Jarvis and Walt backup the 3, Rip, Aff, Dix at the 2, and Stuckey, Hunter and Dix at the 1.

AJ has limited range, can be foul prone and is a lousy perimeter defender. Jarvis has range on him at the 3.

Micro, you have been bad mouthing Amir all season. It makes none of it true for all you write against him. Amir is one of our best perimeter defenders, able to get out there quickly, with a ton of reach, height, and ups. Overall, the defensive numbers show that if Amir goes out there onto the floor, it significantly drops the other team's field goal percentage. Anyone who likes defense should be cheering on Amir to get playing time.

Conversely, if you don't like guys who can't play perimeter D, Hayes is the poster child for lack of defense.

lemonpen · #35 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 06:31 PM

Lots of discussion about guys who will play the fewest minutes. I'm more concerned about the main three, Tay/Rip/Sheed, and how they approach this game. We need another performance like game 5 of series #1. Come out focused, intense, agressive, and cohesive. Get off to a strong start and everyone else will follow. Give the bench a wave to ride.

As far as D goes, it would be very helpful if we manage to remember that 4 of 5 Magic would rather hoist a 3-ball, and quit retreating deep inside the arc.

Darth Tater · #36 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee356

Micro, you have been bad mouthing Amir all season. It makes none of it true for all you write against him.

I think he has a personal vendetta against anyone not named Franzen...

lurker · #37 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 07:22 PM

I am a big Amir fan, but the fouls continue to be a real problem. If you look at the regular-season leaders in fouls per minute, he's 19th on the list with 8.9 fouls per 48 minutes. He did this while playing more minutes than any of the 18 guys who are higher on the list. Last year in the D-League in almost every game he put up huge numbers and then fouled out or came close to it.

I think this is something he can and will improve, but right now it's holding him back.

Lee356 · #38 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

I am big a Amir fan, but the fouls continue to be a real problem. If you look at the regular-season leaders in fouls per minute, he's 19th on the list with 8.9 fouls per 48 minutes. He did this while playing more minutes than any of the 18 guys who are higher on the list. Last year in the D-League in almost every game he put up huge numbers and then fouled out or came close to it.

I think this is something he can and will improve, but right now it's holding him back.

Newflash. Amir gets to more plays per minute. Amir also is never called upon to not foul, to conserve his fouls to stay in the game. If he needed to foul less, he would. Its really no problem. What you really need to look at is if the other team scores or not score if you put Amir into the game. So far,the answer is they don't.

lpgrl26 · #39 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Low

I'd much rather see Hunter active. These guys HAVE to keep the dribble penetration to a minimum and Dixon hasn't been known for denying anybody anything.

Everytime ORL takes a 3, there's a Pistons no closer than 8-10 feet running like he missed the bus, waving his arms and hoping they miss....not really a sound defensive strategy if you ask me.

This is so funny to me. I swear sometimes i hear a player just yell "ahhh" as he's running to try to distract the shooter.

edited to add;

I third or fourth ? balldon'tlie's post.

Dlev59 · #40 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee356

Newflash. Amir gets to more plays per minute. Amir also is never called upon to not foul, to conserve his fouls to stay in the game. If he needed to foul less, he would. Its really no problem. What you really need to look at is if the other team scores or not score if you put Amir into the game. So far,the answer is they don't.

??????

"Gets to more plays per minute"? Is that a stat?

AJ is never called upon not to foul? Does that mean he is put into the game, to foul?

Lastly, so AJ is responsible solely for the opponent to not score?