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Old 09-21-2005, 01:44 AM
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I am repeatedly drawn to respond although you have meandered in a lot of different directions.

Where to start...

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Boozer's fat contract is an example of it, what did he do last year? Nothing.
Actually, Boozer lead Utah in PPG. He raised his per game scoring by almost 2 points per game on a squad that traded it's starting point and lost it's MVP SF to injury. You call that nothing?

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While I say that Lebron couldn't have won games in the past because of the talent around him, you claim its because of him, and his character, that he underachieved and didn't make the playoffs. You may not directly say it but by saying Wade is better because of that; it completely throws away the first reason this discussion started in the first place. That Lebron is a better player skill-wise by a larger margin.
Actually, this is how you started
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I believe Lebron is the best player in the league right now, by far, and there is no one out there that can stop him if he gets going.
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People have to be stupid to even think that Wade is better than Lebron.
I don't see any mention of "skill-wise" except here...

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Wade may have a better organization who put a better team around him so far but by athleticism/skill and soon-to-be growing leadership, James is the winner.
The conclusion you are promoting is that Wade is only good because he is on the Heat, not because he has any skills, athleticism or leadership to matchup with Lebron. That's horse manure. Wade has ACCOMPLISHED more than Lebron with less.

That 2004 heat squad had zero leaders and a bunch of whiny, lazy players. Wade galvanized them by throwing himself into defenses to draw fouls and show heart.

Lebron had an All-Star center last year, and he couldn't make the big show...

Lastly, I look up the per 48 production and find it is darn close, then you resort to PER? Man, it's grasping at straws....

Right now, Dwayne Wade is the better player. He's smart, he's complete, he's relentless, he has shown TREMENDOUS leadership and he wins. If anything, Wade makes Shaq better rather than the other way around.

I know you are adamant in your belief that Lebron is the next Basketball Messiah. Maybe he will be. Or maybe he will be like KG and rack up those stats and awards but never be considered a winner.
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