i am freakin tired of darko period any future darko posts/threads need to be and regular posts need to go back to topic(i forgot there was a smiley for that) when darko gets brought up

For some reason, I'm not sure I'm getting your point. What I'm hearing you say is that 6-7 PF Jmax should be played against 7-0 C Kaman, but that he can't do it as well as Darko, except that Jmax outplayed Kaman in the summer league in a way that Darko could not. Did I get that right? Oh...and Darko is 7-2, right?


I'm sorry...you lost me again.

Darko on Shaq is food for the Sports Center highlight reel...and I don't mean that in a good way. Dice & DD are our Shaq barricade after Ben & Sheed...not Darko, not Jmax.

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I must be slow...I'm just not getting your gist.

By/if the time comes that Darko could handle Shaq...Shaq will be retired.

From the Chicago Sun Times

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sport...pt-bull17.html

He looked bad out there. No concept at all of getting good rebounding position. He is so concerned with blocking shots that he does not see anything else. I do not expect anything from Darko anymore.

Thing is Darko is taking a spot that someone like Glyndauskas ( greek center) could have had. Glyn would not have exactly been an all-star either but at least he would be giving it 110% everytime out there.

Darko did tip in a rebound in traffic. The sad thing is how unusual that has become. Even sadder: He's again tossing up shots without seeming to care if they go in.

I'm not making excuses for Darko. And I'm as dissatisfied with his performance so far. But, I'm glad Joe drafted Darko, not because he contributed something, but because he didn't do anything to deter that championship drive.

Nobody can say for certain that had we drafted Bosh, Melo, Wade or anybody else that we would have still won that year, because it didn't happen. Darko happened. We won.

Sure they are far off from where Darko is right now and are great great players, but the state of the Pistons today have no need for them. I'm saying I'd like someone to just sit on the bench, not do anything to disrupt the team, get whatever work in during practice, not sulk around when put in garbage time (which I'm still hoping he'd do), and that is Darko.

It's kinda weird, contributing while not contributing really. Twisted way of thinking but hey, it's one way of looking at it.

Look at the stats, everyone seems so happy with JMax and so upset with Darko, yet Darko has the better stats in similar types of pt.

JMax may be running around more, but the result is the same, not counting shots. Which Jmax seems to be taking a little too much, and Darko at the 5, isn't going to get set plays in Flip's offense. (Check out Ben and Davis' shots per game)

Darko has more boards, more steals, more blocks, and less fouls, I guess he's just not as motivated as Jmax.

And more minutes....

That is the understatement of the Millenium.

And you don't have a bias?

What about the rebound where he sealed his man from the rim, had perfect position and didnt even raise his hands or jump as the ball sailed over his head?

That is a big part of the problem. Jesus Basketball is a youthful and healthy 7' european legend, making approx. $5 million a year (more than Arroyo, Hunter, Evans, Davis or JMax+Acker+Johnson combined) and he's the worst +/- player on the team. He makes a negative impact on the floor.

That's always been the problem. We want to like him. He gives us a glimpse or taste every three months. For every great moment, we're rewarded with 30 or 40 ho-hum ones.

Well, like it or not, everyone has high expectations from a #2 pick that was taken over Anthony, Wade, Bosh, Kaman etc. Expectations for him will always be higher than JMax. He seems so indifferent to whether or not he is this generation's Sam Bowie. If I were him and had some pride, it would bother me a lot.

almost all the pistons had a part in that win. even though the pistons had 110 points the most anyone got was 19 (from sheed). arroyo was great, and so was maurice. he and arroyo had some great hustle plays. Delfino didn't shoot that great, but he handled the ball well gat some good assists, and rebounds. dice is getting his 50% shooting back, and he's almost always solid off the bench. J-max put up some good points, and a perfectly good block the refs called a foul on. as for darko he had a tip-in, but he has to learn that he needs to get rebounds not only blocks. he never was in position to get boards. great offensive flow 29 assists and 50% shooting from 3, and 50.6 % shooting overall. shut them down defensively to 82 made them turnover the ball (although some were unforced). beat them on the glass 46-39.

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