Michael Jordan also had this problem.

http://www.82games.com/0506/05DET11A.HTM

I don't blame you. Even lazyberbs sees that his effort is not all there. It's tough when you can't see what most everyone else is.

I'm out on this. In 2 hours, I have exhausted my DMC posting energy. Plus the Sausage King is getting ticked off with all the DMC stuff. You can have the last word.

Great game by Ben last night. Great game by Sheed. Luol Deng scoring so easily on Tay is a little distressing. That kid is a stud.

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Sounds a lot like Sheed's game. I'd rather have a 7 footer who can shoot the J take an open one, rather than trying to put it on the floor. And JMax does chuck up a lot of shots, and he has been a terrible rebounder on D. And where's Dale? No one seems to criticize him because he hasnt been able to step up to the plate and help reduce some of the minutes Ben and Sheed are playing.

We win a game by 20, and everyone wants to criticize Darko because he aint a Garbage time supa sta. Darko haters, think about this, how many guys on our team can cover an opposing center? 4, and you guys want to cut one of them. Stupid.

Wave, you shouldn't have put up that link, went to it, compared Jmax's to Darko's, guess what, statistically speaking, DMC is much more efficient than JMax. A couple of things that stood out:

Shot selection:
Jmax, 63 % of his shots are jumpers, of which he was assisted on 25% of them.
Darko, 55% of his shots are jumpers, of which he was assisted on 100% of them.
Sounds like Darko is taking open J's off the pass, while JMax is dribbling around looking for a shot.

Jmax, 44% inside, Darko 45%, sounds like a tie. JMax does have a better shooting percentage.

Shot clock:
Jmax shoots 51% of his shots with more than 15 seconds left on the clock, doesnt look like he's making that extra pass for the open guy. And when you consider he shoots more shots per minute than any other Piston, I'd say he's jacking up shots.
Darko shoots 70% of his shots with less 16 seconds on the clock, sounds like he's the last option.

Assists are equal

Rebounding:
Jmax is an offensive rebounding machine, crushing Darko. But on Defensive boards, its the exact opposite.
In 28 Defensive rebounding attempts, Jmax got 1.
In 89 Defensive rebounding attempts, Darko got 13, 15% to 4%.

How come no one complains about Jmax's Defensive boards. Looks like Jmax is cherry picking on D, letting other guys get the boards so he can get the breakaway. Anyone think LB would have tolerated that?

JMax isn't bad, I'm glad we have him, but he aint doing anything that Darko isn't. I think you guys misinterpretted Darko's Stash for lack of motivation, I do the same thing with Jake Plummer.

why this bench looks bad is bacuse they are not good defensively. this bench will look better when lindsey comes back. don't forget about dale davis this was the mein reason he brought him here. he will be huge down the road. i think a way this bench might be able to do good is this lineup:
PG: Arroyo: he can create shots for himself and others. anytime we need D we can always go to lindsey after he heals. for now though i'll stick with carlos.
SG: Evans: very athletic can put back shots, shoot, block, and board good for his size. if the team wants better ball handling, and passes off the bench they'll go with delfino.
SF: Dice: we know he's solid.
PF: Dale Davis: If darko is going to keep wanting to block shots the pistons will need someone there ready for boards, and more blocks if the other team gets more offensive rebounds. Dale perfectly fits this role.
c: Lets hope this kid gets better at rebounding and offensively. he will give us a great shotblocking off the bench though.

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I reviewed the game. Even I did not realize how much effort Darko put into this game watching it the first time. Sure helps to have frame by frame.

Lets talk about a couple of rebounding situations Darko was in. One time, he got perfect position under the basket. But the rebound went over him. He did not go up for it. Lack of effort? Wrong. Watching a bit closer you see Darko was shoved under the basket. As the rebound came off, Darko was still flying thru the air from the shove. Not a lack of effort at all, just a missed call by the officials.

Next, that rebound Darko went up for a few times but failed to gather in. Gee, must be lack of effort. Wrong again. First of all, the rebound was not to Darko at all. There were three Chicago players that rebound was headed toward. Darko went up, used that very long arm of his to try to tip the ball toward himself. He went up a couple more times battling for that thing. Excellent effort, just no bound.

Bottom line. Darko does a lot of things very well rather effortlessly. Sorry Darko haters. He is just a very good basketball player. No lack of effort there at all.

everyone's bench was better back then, there were less teams in the league so the talent wasn't spread out so thin

Maybe, but it's not even close. Besides, look at San Antonio's bench.

Lee, how is one in "perfect position" when the ball goes flying over one's head???? It seems like the place I would want to be is where the ball goes.

Poor Darko. Shoved by another player. They shouldn't do that to him when the incompetent official is looking the other way.

You really need to decide whether in your future you will be a basketball analyst , a referee, a coach...or comedian

The bench was actually very effective last night, especially in the 2nd quarter when it still mattered. Arroyo and Dyess especially played well.

'Sheed is playing his best ball as a Piston right now, IMO.

His 3's are beautiful to watch. Kinda hard to believe his 3% (.476) is better than his 2% (.444).

And when you compare last year's 3% (.318) you can see the affect Flip's offense has had on him...and probably a big reason Ben's not getting as many touches. Based on season-to-date numbers, he's on track to attempt 33% more 3's than last year.

BTW...look where the Piston starters (except Ben) rank in 3% in the East...and don't forget to remove the top 4 based on games started.

http://tinyurl.com/8plpe

It's unreal!

Nice to see my buddies Mike James & Mo Pete not far down the list