We would need to come up with a lot of salary to send back.

Rose + James is close to 18 million I think. You ain't getting those guys for Dos Los.

In the 4th we were up by 14 when we pulled mo and we let that lead slip away if you don’t believe me here is a recap of play by play scroll down to the 4th and at 8:13 Evans is replaced by Hamilton. http://scores.nba.com/games/20051202...PlayPrint.html


Starting with 3:44 in the 1st mo came in with the score 19-16 helped extend the lead up to 23-18 and at 1:52 sheed turned the ball over then fouled and Dyess came in played tight through the rest but were down 28-26. At the start of the 2nd we had ca rip mo Dyess and Darko on the court and half way through they started to put starters back in with the score 44-37 Knicks mo had 7 points when he came out of the game so you cant say the lack of production was on him we had our whole bench out on the court except for rip.
Mo is just becomeing a victim in your posts as of late the 4th melt down had less to do with mo and more to do with larry then anything he had an ok night going 3-4 from the feild 1 board 1 steal 1 assist and 2 blocks 7 points

So lets just say your recap is not as thorough as it could have been about mo's pt. you can not pin the 4th on him as he was on the bech when the magority of that lead was cut down to nothing

I'm finally giving up on Darko.

He'll be motivated against LB. He'd have done better if LB wasn't there. He needs playing time. He needs meaningful playing time. He needs meaningful playing time early. He needs time with the starters.

Too many planets have to line up for this guy to have a decent game. Way too many.

There are a lot of things I won't blame him for, notably the inability or unwillingness of the reserves to get him some low post touches. But after a while you just get tired of noticing that other rookies and scrubs can contribute while he's floundering out there. Real talent is obvious, even inescapable. It bursts out at the seams and shows itself. But Darko's flashes aren't getting brighter, and they aren't getting more frequent. Maybe in a town like Atlanta or Oklahoma City he'd get what he needs, but it just ain't happening here.

It reminds me of nothing so much as that old Warner Brothers cartoon where the guy finds a dancing frog who can sing, dance and do everything ... only to go broke when he flops as the curtain goes up.

that's totally ridiculous...were you even watching the game? we had 3 straight turnovers that gave NY confidence and energy to try and make it a game, none of which were from evans.

you're so biased against the guy, when he didn't even play poorly yesterday. in 12 minutes he had 7 points on 3/4 shooting (including 1/1 from 3-point range), a rebound, assist, steal, and 2 blocks. one of his baskets he broke away from the defender for a wide open dunk.

maybe our bench wasn't *spectacular* yesterday but they shot 8-for-11...

I gotcha. You were just making an "observation" and not a "commentary".

Still, it is a glaring weakness in Darko's makeup that he cannot play with particular people coaching OR watching him, or a certain amount of people observing. Some very good players choke when they get to the playoffs. Darko can't even perform in (relatively meaningless) early regular season games. I cannot imagine this guy ever being a clutch performer. He does NOT have Piston DNA, IMO.

" Hello my baby, Hello my darling..." That's the song. Loved that cartoon.

I agree with you man, on all the Darko stuff. The planets aligning and all that. I'm done with him. Come to think of it, I dunno why I stuck with him this long. I finally got to see him for myself, yesterday and he is a JOKE!

Evans doesn't get the benefit of "almosts" as Darko does. If Darko had played as well as Evans we would never hear the end of it from Lee and a couple others.

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If we had to get Spree which I would be very leery of.....How about we call the Hawks tell them to sign him for around 3.5 and we trade Darko for him? Would that work or would we need to wait for long deadlines? Anybody know?

If possible I'd prefer an unprotected 1st rounder within the next two or three years, period. Unjam the roster a little and maybe give Johnson or Acker a little PT.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Lee, man you are trippin'.....again. lol!

Mo Evans did okay last night. The point guards tried to throw the game away in the 4th quarter. That pretty much sums up the collapse.

I agree that Evans has been off and on and I'm still trying to decide what I think of him (I think what I believe is that he's an adequate backup SG to spell Rip for 12-14 minutes per game), but last night was very definitely not his fault. It was primarily the PGs (10 TO's between them) that led to the run. He happened to be on the floor, but that wasn't his fault.

Arroyo and McDyess overall looked a bit better. They're certainly better off playing with some starters on the floor than throwing them out there with Evans and Darko all at once.

And Lee, I'm losing patience with Darko. You jump on Evans' case about everything but always let Darko by with just about anything. I've been very open-minded about letting him have a shot and was disappointed with LB's seeming inability to get him on the floor. But the point is that he contributes virtually nothing while he's out there. He has talent, no question about it. But I watched a less-talented player (Frye) last night totally outplay him after EARNING a spot in LB's rotation. Yes, he has college ball under his belt, but he also has a fire in him I haven't seen from Darko. Darko looks tentative and afraid every time he gets on the floor. That was understandable under LB, who got on him for breathing, but not under Flip, whose more laid-back style should be much more conducive to Darko's development.

Because of our situation (three, perhaps four bigs who are more NBA-ready than Darko) it has been necessary to "force-feed" him minutes that he has perhaps not earned. I understand that. But when given those minutes, he has to do something with them. And so far he hasn't.