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Dumars4Ever · #41 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 09:46 AM

The question of scouting does come into the picture, though. If JMax continues to get a good number of minutes, how are the other teams going to adjust to him? And how will he handle that? I guess this is something we won't be able to answer fully until it happens in the playoffs, where matchups and adjustments play a bigger role than they do in the hectic travel-filled regular season.

roscoe36 · #42 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 09:46 AM

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Steve Kerr made that exact point when Rip pulled that maneuver to get to the line at the beginning of the game. I said "Steve Kerr is right" just as a certain forum leader who shall remain nameless popped open a can of hateration on Kerr.

Lol. GUILTY!

I just think a lot of what Kerr says is terribly hypocritical. He didn't have the talent of any of the top 8 Detroit players and yet he always seems to have some comment, including the inital mocking of Maxiell/Barkley comparisons.

roscoe36 · #43 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 09:48 AM

I think a good point was made on the radio by a caller the other day, as well as the comparisons with Sir Charles last night on TNT.

Maxiell doesn't have much of a finesse game outside a soft shot. If he can develop some post moves, up and unders to go with the THROUGH and OVERS, maybe a pump fake or spin fake, he could be devastating. That would compensate for the poor FT shooting if he can increase his efficiency and take more single FT attempts.

Dumars4Ever · #44 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 09:50 AM

I don't think much of the JMax/Barkley comparisons either. That's a Top 50 dude we're talking about. As KGreg said earlier, and as I've been saying for a while, the best we should hope for from JMax is that he becomes another Corliss. TNT should have been rolling some footage of Big Nasty in his Detroit days for comparison purposes.

Dumars4Ever · #45 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 09:53 AM

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Flip Murray is quite simply playing for his next pay day. I think Dupree in what little we saw of him was trying to force his shot, and get his own. Performances like that are not going to earn more playing time.

Classic garbage time performance from Super Dupes, chucking it up every single time he got the ball! LOL. I get a kick out of watching scrubs do that.

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Delfino has really impressed me of late. What better kind of guy to replace Tayshaun on the floor at times? Glue for glue. Plenty of intangibles. My only concern is that he still isn't contributing regularly as a scorer and at one point, that will catch up to him.

Yeah, the lack of shooting touch is still an issue, but he does bring the glue consistently. That alone makes him a pretty valuable sub.

Dumars4Ever · #46 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:15 AM

From ESPN's Daily Dime:

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Thursday's Worst

Cavs forward Anderson Varejao: Sideshow Bob must still be preoccupied with trying to kill Bart Simpson rather than hoopin'. He was shut down, missing all six shots from the floor while making 1-for-4 free throws. Oooohhhhh.

And they don't even mention the flops, one of which ended up in a Pistons layup. I wonder if Cleveland fans also call him Sideshow Bob?

OLD SKOOL HQ · #47 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lpgrl26

One of the most entertaining parts about this game (besides the win) was the commentary.

After Varejo (sp?) flopped as Chauncey was coming around the screen. They didn't call it, but when they were heading back he was like "nice flop" or "you like flopping" something to that extent.

And then after a bulls%it foul call, Sheed and Dyess were having a conversation at the FT line. Sheed was like it must be nice to be Lebron, getting all these calls, and Dyess was like i know right

Sheed pretty much sucked tonight, but i swear ball dont lie never gets old

LOL

I played that clip on DVR three times ...Heres Sheed:
"That was definetly a LEBron call. I better not get too close. They would have called a flagrant."

And whatever happenned to the "and 1" tech that they gave twice to sheed this year. LeBron did it THREE times last night. The league needs to rescind at lweast 3 of Sheed's techs. And when Gooden came out of a timeout after flagrant on Max , he didnt know they called a flagrant and looked right at the ref on the camera and said "Bull%^%$!"

OLD SKOOL HQ · #48 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

The Flopping got me thinking about another problem that I see with basketball... the obvious drawing of fouls by the offensive player. What if there was a rule that any time the offensive player invites contact, it is not a foul? Why should it be a foul if they were seeking it out?

You could still pump fake and draw the foul going straight into your shooting motion. But these guards that jump into the defender should not get the calls.

Varejao really got embarrassed on that 2nd flop attempt though. ha.

like OUR Chauncey and Rip?

OLD SKOOL HQ · #49 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by max

Not sure what to make out of that game, if it was Clev not hitting any shots or the D or whatever. I will take it.

NBA.com: Pistons at Cavaliers Boxscore

You just knew someone was going to take over the game in the 4th. Tonight it was the Pistons.

What is up with the bench? Or Flip playing them? What this team needed, just almost shocked that Flip is playing them. Really amazing to see Blaylock out there before Flip Murry. Maxiel continues to play great and Dyess even had a good game.

Murray or Lindsay? I say trade FlipII 'round the allstar break.....

OLD SKOOL HQ · #50 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:26 AM

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Nice, plain and simply put NICE!!!!!.
After watching Colriss play in the second game it is COMPLETELY obvious that Max brings to the table everything Corliss took when we shipped him to Philly for DC, man we were missing IT for 2 full seasons, a tough-strong-contact LOVING presence inside. Man it's good to see a big that loves to battle and can actually intimidate in the paint. For crying out loud the sonics thought he was 6'11"

A good tough win where we won the board war and the points in the paint and held their scoring down.......for a minute I thought I was watching the Blue Collar boys "Goin' to Work" again.

THE CONFLICT IN ME HAS ARISEN ONCE AGAIN!......rats.....