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Old 12-22-2006, 10:39 AM
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Interesting evening. I found myself impatiently waiting to see the bench enter the game. I wasn't disappointed either. They performed admirably against an opponent that mattered.

The JMax comparison to Barkley seems more on point to me than with Corliss, only cause of similar power around the basket. Corliss initiated plenty of bump & grind but finished with finess. Give the kid a little while to improve his handles and learn his opponents, then look out.

Billups was masterful in directing the second half flow. He made the team run through its options, instead of the first half fire-and-fall-back approach.

I thought NazMo played a very solid game on both ends.

It sure seemed like the rule changes regarding jump steps and such are effecting LeBron's ability to dominate with drives into the lane. Or maybe it was fatigue from B2B games.

FlipM, zero second half PT. Dude seems kind of stubborn in his me-shoot-first approach.

The single dimensional aspects of the Cavs supporting cast showed up like game 1&2 of last years playoffs. They gotta be having major doubts this morning.
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The single dimensional aspects of the Cavs supporting cast showed up like game 1&2 of last years playoffs. They gotta be having major doubts this morning.
Yeah, though it's actually a little more like Game 7 of the Pistons-Cavs series: the final score of that one was 79-61. What's worse about last night's game for the Cavs is that it was in their house.
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Yes, great win. Good to see Dyess grab 11 boards.
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Interesting evening. I found myself impatiently waiting to see the bench enter the game. I wasn't disappointed either. They performed admirably against an opponent that mattered.

The JMax comparison to Barkley seems more on point to me than with Corliss, only cause of similar power around the basket. Corliss initiated plenty of bump & grind but finished with finess. Give the kid a little while to improve his handles and learn his opponents, then look out.

Billups was masterful in directing the second half flow. He made the team run through its options, instead of the first half fire-and-fall-back approach.

I thought NazMo played a very solid game on both ends.

It sure seemed like the rule changes regarding jump steps and such are effecting LeBron's ability to dominate with drives into the lane. Or maybe it was fatigue from B2B games.

FlipM, zero second half PT. Dude seems kind of stubborn in his me-shoot-first approach.

The single dimensional aspects of the Cavs supporting cast showed up like game 1&2 of last years playoffs. They gotta be having major doubts this morning.
THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO BARKLEY!!! he was one in a million. If there was one guy that is imcomparable i the history of this league , it was the 6'4" 250lb round mound of rebound! Although If i see , Brahma go behind his back on a dribble ONE Time, I'll fall off my chair!!

BARKLEY>>>>>>there is no subsitute,,,

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SHAQ
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No one did what they did WHEN they were doin it!!
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Yeah, though it's actually a little more like Game 7 of the Pistons-Cavs series: the final score of that one was 79-61. What's worse about last night's game for the Cavs is that it was in their house.
I thought the magnitude of game 7 did more to stop the Cavs than did the Stones, but the Cavs knew what to do. The Cavs had no clue how to attack us in games 1&2. Last night it looked again like they were lost.
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Murray Sucks. Not much else to note. He's worse than Mo Evans.
Evans can have his moments on offense. When he gets it going on offense he can run the point total per minute played pretty good. He seems to have, at least for now, found a nice niche with the Fakers. Farmer's Market takes good care of him, AB and Vladi.

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I think Dupree in what little we saw of him was trying to force his shot, and get his own. Performances like that are not going to earn more playing time.

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I liked Dupree. What you call forcing a shot, I consider being aggressive. Nothing worse than watching a guy pass the ball and set screens in GT. He made a good play with a lot of hustle and fired and open J (with incredibly ugly form...shades of gerald wallace?). He didn't shoot anything that made me groan.

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I think all of the "Flip is a bad coach" club (including myself) need to recognize that he has really made massive and impressive changes with the rotation.
We see the bench come in early and late. We also see that they are able to contribute a lot. It may not always be impressive as Maxiell's dunks but we get decent plays out of them as a whole (including flip) and it keeps our guys a little fresher. I think it helps them not pace themselves so much. We seem to have a problem jumping on teams early but with our whole team playing, I think its easier for the A team to open up a lead in the 3rd or 4th Q's
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THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO BARKLEY!!! he was one in a million. If there was one guy that is imcomparable i the history of this league , it was the 6'4" 250lb round mound of rebound! Although If i see , Brahma go behind his back on a dribble ONE Time, I'll fall off my chair!!

BARKLEY>>>>>>there is no subsitute,,,

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BARKLEY
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SKYWALKER THOMPSON

No one did what they did WHEN they were doin it!!
Can't argue your point that CB was incredibly talented. Just sayin, IMO JMax is closer to Chas than The Big Nasty, and given time will develop simular finess of a smaller player.
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I don't think much of the JMax/Barkley comparisons either. That's a Top 50 dude we're talking about. As KGreg said earlier, and as I've been saying for a while, the best we should hope for from JMax is that he becomes another Corliss. TNT should have been rolling some footage of Big Nasty in his Detroit days for comparison purposes.
As I recall, Corliss played a lot with his back to the basket; i.e. he posted up a lot and developed some pretty good moves to go with his jumper

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As I recall, Corliss played a lot with his back to the basket; i.e. he posted up a lot and developed some pretty good moves to go with his jumper
Yeah, my roommate in grad school referred to Corliss as the "six foot four thug in the post."

He also referred to Kurt Thomas as "a shi!#y Terry Cummings."
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