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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

Thanks for all the great reviews and comments. I've been out of town and was shocked to see this in the news... triple OT! But now I feel like I kind of sort of watched it through the eyes of the collective PF brain.
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

How come Eddie Curry was -12 for the game (the worst on the Knicks) and Nazr was +0 on the game (the 3rd best for the Pistons)?

If other players were dragging Eddie down, then they would show a worse number.
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

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What point are you trying to make. ...that Mohammed cost the Pistons the game? That he got manhandled by Curry? Have you seen Curry's stats the past couple of weeks? He's manhandled everbody!
The only point I am making here is that Mohammed was a total zero for us in those opening five minutes. And that I will review the rest of the game yet. Hold your horses.

Ok, I watched the rest of the game. Whether it was Mohammed getting better, or him just resting most of the 1st half while Curry was playing most of it and getting tired, Mohammed guarded Curry just fine in the 3rd quarter. Mohammed also knocked down 8 points for us. Indeed, Mohammed had a good 3rd quarter. He did get pushed aside once by Curry, but thats pretty good for a whole quarter. He also stayed home a time or two with his man instead of helping out on the drive.

Unfortunately, the rare occurrance where Mohammed does decide to help out, all he does is weakly fouls the guy, never managing to make a play, never managing to challenge the drive enough to make the player back off or even pass the ball to someone else. This does create a problem for the Pistons, as the other team always knows the middle is open with Mohammed playing center for us. Still, for this game, there was not a whole lot of that to talk about concerning Mohammed. About 4 plays total thru the end of the first overtime. (I am not going to reviews the last two overtimes.-ran out of time for now.)

So in all, did Mohammed have a bad game or a good game. Lets call it average. Nothing at all in the first half, a good 3rd quarter, and a decent OT period.

I also reviewed Flip Murray's play. You know, it is not what Flip Murray does that is so bad. Its more what he does not do. He just does not ever show up at the right place on defense or offense. Most of his "bad" play all occurred in a span of a minute, the last minute of 4 he played in this game. (Not counting the brief appearance at the very end of the game.) In the first 3 minutes, during an 11-0 run for NY, he simply did nothing.

It is interesting to note that immediately after Murray left the game, a four minute stretch where we never stopped them hardly at all and scored not at all ourselves, we went on a 12-2 run. The announcers were mentioning how the Pistons were running a clinic on how to play. And Delfino was being mentioned as a huge part of this over and over. Talk about night and day. Could Murray be that bad. Hey, watching who came in when, there seemed no other trigger for what happened besides Murray getting off the floor. Having five solid NBA players out there instead of just four really does make a difference.
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

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The only point I am making here is that Mohammed was a total zero for us in those opening five minutes. And that I will review the rest of the game yet. Hold your horses.

Ok, I watched the rest of the game. Whether it was Mohammed getting better, or him just resting most of the 1st half while Curry was playing most of it and getting tired, Mohammed guarded Curry just fine in the 3rd quarter. Mohammed also knocked down 8 points for us. Indeed, Mohammed had a good 3rd quarter. He did get pushed aside once by Curry, but thats pretty good for a whole quarter. He also stayed home a time or two with his man instead of helping out on the drive.

Unfortunately, the rare occurrance where Mohammed does decide to help out, all he does is weakly fouls the guy, never managing to make a play, never managing to challenge the drive enough to make the player back off or even pass the ball to someone else. This does create a problem for the Pistons, as the other team always knows the middle is open with Mohammed playing center for us. Still, for this game, there was not a whole lot of that to talk about concerning Mohammed. About 4 plays total thru the end of the first overtime. (I am not going to reviews the last two overtimes.-ran out of time for now.)

So in all, did Mohammed have a bad game or a good game. Lets call it average. Nothing at all in the first half, a good 3rd quarter, and a decent OT period.

I also reviewed Flip Murray's play. You know, it is not what Flip Murray does that is so bad. Its more what he does not do. He just does not ever show up at the right place on defense or offense. Most of his "bad" play all occurred in a span of a minute, the last minute of 4 he played in this game. (Not counting the brief appearance at the very end of the game.) In the first 3 minutes, during an 11-0 run for NY, he simply did nothing.

It is interesting to note that immediately after Murray left the game, a four minute stretch where we never stopped them hardly at all and scored not at all ourselves, we went on a 12-2 run. The announcers were mentioning how the Pistons were running a clinic on how to play. And Delfino was being mentioned as a huge part of this over and over. Talk about night and day. Could Murray be that bad. Hey, watching who came in when, there seemed no other trigger for what happened besides Murray getting off the floor. Having five solid NBA players out there instead of just four really does make a difference.
This was a fair commentary. I'm just curious as to why you saw it fit to do a Mohammed/Murray analysis when it seems fairly obvious that other players played a larger role in the Pistons loss. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were picking on them.
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

Lee, you think Amir could do all these things Nazz didn't?
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

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Even if you have an open 3 why not take a dribble or two and a couple steps and pull up for a nice 18 ft jumper.

Also there is no defense on this team at all. Giving up 61 points in the first quarter to the Knicks is a joke. Giving up that many points used to be unheard of unless we were playing a Western Conference team like Dallas or Phoenix.
Something like this perhaps?

YouTube - Chauncey Billups game winner vs Chicago


But its not like he hasn't won the game from 3 before.

YouTube - Top 10 Pistons Buzzer Beaters of the Past 10 Years (2006)
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

I miss Jon Barry. I like guys who run around when the shot goes down bouncing off his teammates and shaking his fist at the crowd. We need some more of those guys.
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Re: At NY Knicks December 27th, 7:30PM

For those that missed this triple OT thriller, NBA-TV will have it at 4:30 PM on Saturday, 12/30/2006...........
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