0.9 seconds left in a tie game is not my idea of the right time for a hard foul.

just forget about the 2 rebounds delfino just gave us to put us in position to get that close. delfino played great and that wasn't even delfino's man that he fouled. who was supposed to be checking armstrong who let the long pass get all the way down the court???

the starters were inconsistent. the bench was playing great and flip feels some kind of responsibility to put the starters back in no matter how the bench is playing.

Ah, yes, yes it was. It was a genuinely dumbass play. And, he managed to get himself up into the air with no help from Armstrong, especially given that Armstrong was already well covered by Prince.

I've only watched two or three games this year, but that two-man dribbling game that Chauncey and Rip were playing for most of the second half isn't a regular feature now, is it? I have a hard time believing that even Flip's point-guard-pounding offense would devolve that far.

Oh, so it wasn't his man. I guess that makes it OK.

And I did say that Delfino had a good game overall. But not in the last 3.5 seconds.

Minutes played:

Rasheed 21
Nazr 17
JMax 27
Delfino 23

What the hell are you talking about?

UNBE-FREEEKIN-LEEBABLE!!!Why cant we just blow somebody out....

Heres the DIRTY LOW DOWN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rasheed Wallace is a punk of all nature. Its amazing how sick these $5large players get when they just have to play as hard as possible for 25-30 minutes.I saw Jordan sick as a freekin dawg win an NBA Finals game in worse conditions than Sheed tonight. Ive had it with him. he's the Magglio Ordonez of this team. Where was he last year when it mattered? Where will he be this year when it matters? HE let his boy ONEAL go off again and then looked pretty healthy to me in the last twenty seconds. We need MEN this year. Im not saying start Max but he needs his 25 just like tonight, Im just tired of this being the only team in the league that cant win by 10 points on there home court unless they
play somebody missing 5 of its players?

Trade Sheed.

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Another loss. What did we gain? Billups will now get some rest. Thats good. If we had a coach worth a darn Billups would have been getting rest, not going for a career high in minutes. Hey, just maybe this 12 year NBA coach can learn. Meanwhile, at least CB will get some time off.

You can sure go from near hero to goat quick. Delfino got the offensive rebound that allowed CB to to tie the game with a triple with 3 seconds left. But then he ran into Armstrong with 9/10 a second to go to put Armstrong at the foul line. Darn. Delfino had a good game early offensively, and played some pretty darn good D, especially in the first half.

Murray was not apparently going to play in this game, but Rip picked up his 4th foul early in the 3rd quarter and Flip got some time. We did ok with Flip in there. Nothing Flip did mind you, but Dale Davis and Jason Maxiell soon entered the game and things went well. Sheed had the flu, and Mohammed, well, he was just being himself. Dale Davis and JMAX represented a major upgrade at that point.

JMAX hit several shots, mostly just going up and over people. But note his range. Out to 18 feet. And that stepback that his coaches would not let him shoot, he shot one, and nailed it. Baston was defending him so he just took a hard stepback and swished it. This is Jason's best move, something that simply can't be stopped without a double team. Let the guy shoot it.

JMAX also had a serious stuff of O'Neal, as well as just helping keep the ball away from O'Neal. Defense, offense. Yes, JMAX should be starting over Mohammed.

Tay got some scoring, but that outside shot has deserted him-probably something to do with playing over 50 minutes two nights earlier. Rip did ok. Another ho hum 20 something game for him. Some rattled out early or maybe he would have had another huge game. CB got just over 20.

Our bench just seemed fun to watch in that 2nd quarter. Flip should not have taken those guys out. Certainly not Maxiell, and certainly not Blalock cause anyone with any common sense about basketball knew Billups needed the rest. All we got from returning our starters is a lead lost, and more importantly, a great chance to rest our stars completely blown.

Dyess played the 4th, did ok. He hit an outside shot.

No, I do not like to see our rotation shrink. If Flip wants to quit using Flip Murray (good choice) play Amir Johnson in the rotation. I really don't think its a good idea to play Delfino 16 straight minutes. Amir Johnson can spell Tay.

Still obvious that our starting unit has no plays written for Delfino.

Next game Sunday at 4pm, Phoenix. I will be there. GO PISTONS!!!!!

it's all the jealousy of the bench players. rip should have passed to delfino several times with the game on the line. yet he drove to the hole and turned it over.

bball, what does that have to do with fouling a 88% FT shooter in a tie game with only seconds left?

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it doesn't make it ok but at least he was there to make a play at all.


it's not how much they played it's when. when the bench was making a run flip feels obligated to put the starters back in.

i don't mind bad plays when they are done aggressively. yeah it was a mistake but he made several great plays to get us in the position we were in anyway. nobody is talking about rip and chauncey jacking shots and turning it over. flip murray wouldn't have even been on that half of the court. if he was he would have gave a soft foul and da would get the and one.