Jay, you want Delf on the court, so then don't pull this "Flip murray" jazz when Carlos makes a mistake.

You're right. He screwed up. The other night, everyone was falling over themselves to give him kudos. When you play, you're the hero or the goat. Not everyone can be like Tayshaun, start and float 8 games out of 10.

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Chauncey-had a career high 12 rebounds. The Pistons outrebounded the Pacers well, but were beat by stupid turnovers, and slow rotations. It can easily be fixed, but it still has to be fixed. Flip should of made these guys work their butts of in practice after Wednesday, but I bet he didn't.

I'd fall for that pumpfake. In that situation Delfino thought there was very little time left and that Armstrong had to put up a shot. It was a great veteran move. Speaking about good veteran moves why in the world would Flip make the guys run a halfcourt press. Does he seriously think he'd get a TO and a shot for his team running that? The Pistons should of ran back and gaurded the hoop and allow a half courter in the first place.

Chauncey is going to be out 10-14 days according to WDFN. Even if he's only out 10 days he'll miss games against the Suns, Hornets, and Bulls. I hope Chauncey stays out for 14 days or possibly more than because the week after the Bulls game is a cakewalk if the Pistons do what they are supposed to do.

Don't let the score fool you. Pistons should of lost that game, and were clearly outplayed. It's simple stuff that have been so frustrating so far this season. Slow rotations, turnovers, boxouts. It's time to get it fixed, and have a meaningful win.

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The main problem tonight was turnovers. They've only averaged 11 per game this season, but they had 19 tonight. If they had taken care of the ball like they usually do, they would have had a pretty solid win.

Stupid mistakes. A key one was a Granger steal on Rip.

As for the Chauncey injury. It's so easy to see that he's getting worn out. Is Flip the only one blind to this?? Stop playing him more than 40 minutes every game. A player would not get injured the way he did if he was well rested. His legs gave out on him. Keep him on the sidelines for a while Joe. Playoffs are what matter.

I'm so glad I can come here and have spirited discussions about the Pistons. I live and die with these guys and one good thing about tonight's game (serious no monkey here) at least we're not talking about that 3OT game in New York anymore. In the misery loves company department I got great joy in seeing that Kobe was both the hero and the goat in his game tonight. He scored 58 points but pulled a couple of bone-headed plays including fouling a player shooting a 3 point shot. See it's not just bench players that make errors, even Hall of Fame players make mistakes. If basketball was mistake free what fun would that be? You have to feel the pains of heartbreak sometimes to really savor the victories. I hate seeing the Pistons lose two games in a row that they could have easily won but that's what builds character.

I agree with you their. I'm not ticked about the loss. The only way I will be is if nothing is gained out of the loss. What I am ticked about is Flip substitution pattern. He had it for a while thier things were going great. He keeps riding Chauncey. Chauncey said that he felt something pop, he probably right.

Delfino becomes an axe murderer... and there's BBall saying it was Ben playing Jedi mind tricks on him.
it's ok BBall, Delfino and Darko are not perfect.... and Ben's a good player.... seek the truth and you will be free.

This is a bad patch for the team.

Delfino made a very bad play. Rip hit two key free throws but he also got stripped going one on one late. But these are small matters.

Here is what really bothers me:

1) We just got out played again by Indiana. We truly miss Ben against this team and we have to prove that we can beat them without Ben. Of course, Sheed was basically out which helped them. They controlled the game at key points just as we usually control the game. We were problably tired from the Knick game. Still, they took the game at the crucial times like a team is suppose to and held on.

2) How shortsided was it to play our key guys so many minutes in that meaningless Knick game and not have them ready for the Pacers and now the Suns.

3) The Chauncey injury sure looks like it might be based on too many minutes in a short span...

4) Was that a little bit of playoff fold in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and the inability of the coach to reverse his team? This felt too much like last year. We did come back though.

5) We are just not intense like the Spurs and Suns to name two top teams. We get the lead and float and then we start to press, go one on one and it just gets worse. Sometimes we don't play with the proper amount of fear...


Positives:

Davis defense, Maxiell's play and jumper. Our best team late against many teams may be Prince, Sheed and Maxiell on the front line. Maxiell's development may be the key to the season.

This game was lost in the second qtr when Flip brought all of the starters back in. Rip was forcing shots and Sheed was a step slow with the flu and probably should have never came back in after the first quarter. O'Neal tookoff the previous game with the flu just so he'd beready to terrorize the Pistons and of course he did!!! (Don't NBA teams give mandatory flu shots to all of their players?)

Too many TO's and for the 3rd game in a row, we struggle offensively vs a team that although good we should have beaten. When the lead got up to 15 in the second qtr, I like many thougth the game was over. In fact I told my wife who sat through the game with me that if the lead gets to 20 the Pistons would win and we could flip to another game. Of course as is Flips forte, he saves his time outs and lets the Pacers pull off a 13-2 run before he decides to call a TO.

The Pistons start off slow in the third as once again Rip tries to get off and Tay again relies on jumpers or scoop shots instead of taking it directly to the hoop.

Nice game by the bench, but recall a stat midway through the second qtr (before Flp pulled them) indicating that they had 25 of the 43 points. Unfortunately they only scored 2 the rest of the game....

Can't fault Delfino for the late foul as it could happen to anyone. We should have never been in the situation in the first place. Armstrong scores 1 point, the winning pt, so he is the playa of the game.

The bad CB down for the next 5 or so games and both Ben and Labron cheering that injury since they both win and are now only one game back. The good, CB gets the rest and we get to see how the Blaylock and Murray fair in possible starting roles.

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AI plays 40+ all the time and drives into the lane and gets hammered.

Maybe CB should have spent the summer with a personal trainer. It's flat out embarassing when Flip Saunders says the best player in training camp was Dale Davis.

Shameful for the brahma, Delfino, Billups, Tay even Hamilton.

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