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P.S. And Sheed even had the flu? Good Lord. I mean so what if we lose a few games because Amir isn't quite ready. If that's the worst that happens, we still go to the playoffs with an Amir that can help us. It seems so obvious.[/quote]

Well, this forum seems to know "a recipe of a sucessful development". If depeloping youngs seems to be so easy, why, oh why coaches are not using this formula? Every coach would obviously like fast-developed rooks.

Why there are so many struggling teams and so few contenders?

Because nobody actually knows a certain "development recipe". In a many rebuilding teams noobs get more burn, but results are varied and usually they do not "bring it" during their firs 2-3 years.

And this "hurried development" is a plain wishful thinking here.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

Darko has been a victim of fashion before, but this new haircut takes the cake. He looks like a shift foreman at a German ball bearing plant.

Really nice game from Affalo. Like most above, no idea why he did not play more on the first night of a back to back that involved a Memphis - Houston flight after the game.

And yes beloved announcers, Iavaroni did start for that '83 Sixers team, but only to take take up some time before Bobby Jones could come in. His less than 20 MPG didn't exactly guarantee the 'ship that year. All right, I'm down on the Marc-ster because we both dated the same girl in college. Right before she decided we weren't smart enough for her and she transferred to Princeton. But, I'm not bitter... Enough though it was thirty years ago...
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

boring game. afflalo should've gotten more PT. hopefully flip isn't caving into rip wanting more minutes, but rip *was* hot tonight and playing very well. would've liked to see AJ against similar competition, but oh well. unfortunately for amir, nazr's been playing well.

maxiell is a beast. i love his little tricky move that he does when going for an offensive rebound. basically he runs into the lane and bumps the opposing player, but he does it while keeping his head up looking at the ball, so the foul never gets called. this gives him a clear board and an easy putback.

if you want to know what i mean, which maxiell vs. cleveland in that ECF game last year, when he delivers a 'facial' on lebron james. he shoves pavlovic out of the way to get the board, and absolutely no one notices. he did the same thing last night against darko.

i just hope everyone continues to not notice.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

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Because nobody actually knows a certain "development recipe". In a many rebuilding teams noobs get more burn, but results are varied and usually they do not "bring it" during their firs 2-3 years.

And this "hurried development" is a plain wishful thinking here.
There may not be a development recipe but history has shown over and over that you do not get development without game time. We want to come to the playoff knowing that we gave amir every opportunity to learn the game...to become a viable option when we need it.

Some people are saying 'be patient' but our window of opportunity is short. Maybe some people expected Amir to explode on the scene...that was unrealistic. It's equally unrealistic to believe he will explode a few months later with less opportunities to play.

The team is coming along just like previous years but instead of Delfino and Maxiell getting scant minutes, its Afflalo and Amir.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

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boring game. afflalo should've gotten more PT. hopefully flip isn't caving into rip wanting more minutes, but rip *was* hot tonight and playing very well. would've liked to see AJ against similar competition, but oh well. unfortunately for amir, nazr's been playing well.

maxiell is a beast. i love his little tricky move that he does when going for an offensive rebound. basically he runs into the lane and bumps the opposing player, but he does it while keeping his head up looking at the ball, so the foul never gets called. this gives him a clear board and an easy putback.

if you want to know what i mean, which maxiell vs. cleveland in that ECF game last year, when he delivers a 'facial' on lebron james. he shoves pavlovic out of the way to get the board, and absolutely no one notices. he did the same thing last night against darko.

i just hope everyone continues to not notice.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

First. The first quarter offensive game plan was awesome. IT wasn't fueled by all jumpers, but rather the motion offense that Flip has been preaching finally looks like it is coming into fruition. A lot of ball movement and easy lay-ups. No comment on the sub patterns, although I think Flip was coaching for a quarter of garbage time and the starters ruined it.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

Watching that game last night reminded me what happens when a player gets playing time.

Rudy Gay and Darko looked good and that is what happens when you get playing time and are allowed to fail.

We need to get Amir floor time immediately. The longer we wait the more difficult it will be. He may not be our savior in the play offs this year by playing more now, but he may be next year when we are trying to repeat.

There is no substitution for real game time training.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

Lets hope that Joe reads this forum. He needs to have another serious talk with Flip about the playing time that rookies get. There's a pattern here that Amir doesn't get into the games unless it's garbage time. Afflalo gets 5-6 min in the 2nd quarter and doesn't come back unless it's garbage time. That's Flip's substitution pattern.
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Re: At Memphis Dec. 11th, 8:00 PM

I think the frusterating thing is how much of an Impact they kept saying Amir would have this season. You get all excited about that. They gave him a nice contract to out-bid SanAntonio, yet he is still treated as a rookie. Its his 3rd year - time to play.
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