If you trap DET's screen & rolls you can give them trouble. I watch Stuckey play and think if Flip Murray were 22 he would be this forums most popular player. They're the same player to me except I've never seen Flip get blocked like that.

Thanks for the recaps folks. I am out of town and missed both Pacer games. Didn`t think the Pistons would take them both!

Boy I miss my NBALP!!

That wasn't exactly the type of the games we had against Cavs. Indiana plays no D and Cavs are very solid defensively.

Have you ever seen Flip play defense like Stuckey?

The question is: Have you ever seen Murray play defense period?

Only if you count his occasional steals.

Comparing Murray to Stuckey is well......

Just come back in 3 years and lets compare them.

I think we can do that.

The problem with Flip is that he could never put it together off the bench. Start him, and he's a solid offensive player. Bring him off the bench for 15mpg, and he's flat out bad. On top of that, he doesn't have the size to defend the SG spot, so you couldn't consistently start him there. And no team wants to make him their starting PG, because he can't run an offense. You end up with the perfect storm of a theoretically great scoring punch off the bench, who can't play off the bench.

Stuckey solves a number of those issues. He's taller and stronger, so putting him in at the SG spot is no problem. Yet he can also play PG off the bench. I probably wouldn't want him as my starting point guard today, but he has played 5 NBA games in his career, and he's coming off a 2-month injury!!!. So, he still has a great chance at developing the extra nuances of the PG game that Flip never did. And even this early in his career, he looks more consistent than Flip has every been off the bench.

I'm not sure what some people expected from him this early. He's already helping us win games.

Nice win, but I would've loved to seen more of Amir out there for McDyess last night.

That way, he'd be prepared to help us in the Playoffs in a few months.

He can also make his free throws at a very high rate which is very important for a guy whose offensive game is dependent on getting to the free throw line.

Murray on the other hand is a career 71% free throw shooter, which is terrible for a guard.

For their careers average free throws made per 40 minutes.

Stuckey----5.5
Murray ---- 3.0

Stuckey is just getting his feet wet. I expect that his free throws made per 40 minutes will go up from 5.5.

One can not minimize that difference for a number of reasons.

Not only does it mean more points per game at the free throw line which is a good thing

but also by being able to get to the free throw line and make your free throws

it opens up the opponents defense and makes your whole offense better.

It is also more likely to get a key player on the opponents team into foul trouble which is a very good thing.

Fair points all, but something tells me if Murray played the 3-8 shooting would be the issue. Maybe I am not paying attention, but I haven't seen any great D coming out of the new # 3 unless fouling everything in sight counts. I think Flip has played well this year and his ability to get inside and finish is rare on this team.