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Originally Posted by lpgrl26 It's a valid point. Hayes has been picking it up defensively, and hustling like i ...

 
 
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It's a valid point. Hayes has been picking it up defensively, and hustling like i haven't seen before; so it's more than just shooting. He's also playing more in the flow of the offense.

Competition will make you focus, and that's what it looks like it's done to him.
Hayes does have a history of being a streaky jump shooter. However, he is only 26. Further, he has had a series of knee problems / surgeries to really muck up his career so far. We don't know just how good he can get, not just on his shooting, but on his defense as his knees truly do return toward 100% One other thing, before the knee problems, Hayes was more than just a jump shooter. Maybe he can even start working inside for us more as time and healing goes on.
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Huh?

You just said earlier that Jarvis has been playing well the last two games!

Also, Hayes is a jump shooter, you can`t be actually saying he started making his shots because someone else dressed.

He is a very streaky shooter, he will have droughts, he will also have very hot streaky periods. Jarvis Hayes having the mindset of - "uh oh, he got dressed, I better start making my shots", is comical at best.
Anyone who has ever played competively knows that competition brings out the best. Hayes, according to the announcers, realized he was rushing his shots a bit, and started taking a bit more time on his shots. Relaxing a bit more I think is how they put it. But where did that bit of insight come from. Maybe it was while realizing that someone else might be taking his minutes. Time to make a change. Good thing it worked.
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. But where did that bit of insight come from. Maybe it was while realizing that someone else might be taking his minutes. Time to make a change. Good thing it worked.
Or maybe, he just wanted to start hiiting his shots!

His minutes have just about remained consistent throughout his current slump. IMO, i don`t think he was worried about anyone taking his minutes.
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Re: Milwaukee Dec 31 3:30PM

Missed this, passed out but I did record it.

Happy to see the Pistons are staying on their roll.

This team is playing so well, it's making me uneasy. When is the inevitable over-confidence game going to come?
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Or maybe, he just wanted to start hiiting his shots!

His minutes have just about remained consistent throughout his current slump. IMO, i don`t think he was worried about anyone taking his minutes.
Hardly worth arguing about really. Nobody knows. But to suggest its not possible is just as wrong as me saying its a sure thing. Probably a good idea to move onto different subjects.

And by the way, someone mentioned the word comical. I do try to put a bit of subtle humor in my posts. Nice when someone catches it. But if they turnaround and take it too seriously, well, I guess they really did not get it.

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Hardly worth arguing about really. Nobody knows. But to suggest its not possible is just as wrong as me saying its a sure thing. Probably a good idea to move onto different subjects.

And by the way, someone mentioned the word comical. I do try to put a bit of subtle humor in my posts. Nice when someone catches it. But if they turnaround and take it too seriously, well, I guess they really did not get it.
Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........
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Missed this, passed out but I did record it.

Happy to see the Pistons are staying on their roll.

This team is playing so well, it's making me uneasy. When is the inevitable over-confidence game going to come?
For others who missed it there will be another re-broadcast at 3am on FSN.
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Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........
ok, I see you don't get it. That bit was put in their for some light comedy. Either laugh or say it was not funny. Happy New Year.
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Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........
On today's broadcast Mahorn said, that Hayes for whatever reason was rushing his shots during this shooting slump, and over the last 3 games he hasn't been.

So it would be reasonable to assume that someone, maybe even Hayes himself by watching tapes, noticed that he was rushing his shots and communicated it to him. As a result he stopped rushing his shots and his shooting improved.

The question that remains though is:

What happened that caused him to start rushing his shots 3 or 4 weeks ago?

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On today's broadcast Mahorn said, that Hayes for whatever reason was rushing his shots during this shooting slump, and over the last 3 games he hasn't been.

So it would be reasonable to assume that someone, maybe even Hayes himself by watching tapes, noticed that he was rushing his shots and communicated it to him. As a result he stopped rushing his shots and his shooting improved.

The question that remains though is:

What happened that caused him to start rushing his shots 3 or 4 weeks ago?
Is this one of those trick questions that you already know the answer to?
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