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blackhawk · #61 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter

I just pray that Q doesn't play Rip at the 3 to satisfy his PT desires at the cost of not developing our rookies.

Rip needs to stay at 2. I'm looking forward to watching Summers in action next season. With meaningful playing time hopefully Daye can be incorporated as well.

mikhail1973 · #62 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter

I just pray that Q doesn't play Rip at the 3 to satisfy his PT desires at the cost of not developing our rookies.

Oh, come on. Three guard set with Tay and CV. Small ball. What could possibly go wrong?

blackhawk · #63 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 02:37 PM

With small ball we can score on anyone

hitafreethrow · #64 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 03:00 PM

What about a small ball line up with
Gordon
Rip
Tay
Max
Challie V

It's not really all that small, in fact it's long. I think Max can bang with any 4 in the league for a good 15-20 minutes, and Charlie can play the 5 for a good 10 minutes a game, and come back with
Bynum
Stuckey
Daye
Wilcox
Brown
To bang for a while.

lpgrl26 · #65 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Prince is no longer what he used to be. He doesn't have Wallace X2 guarding the paint once th opposition blows by him. And Deng is pretty creative offensively. I'd say in the best case scenario if Deng is healthy and Prince is active offensively it's a wash.

Prince handled Deng (abused him in fact) offensively with one Wallace behind him. Deng IMO is just overrated. I never got the hype.

mikhail1973 · #66 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 07:06 PM

Tayshaun: 13.2 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 3.3 APG

Has not missed a single game the past five years.
His numbers fell last season, but only because he played fewer minutes per game.
Tayshaun’s assist/turnover ratio greatly improved last season.
Prince has much greater shooting range than Deng.
He has been a winner at every level.
He has been All-Defensive (2nd team) the past four years.

Luol: 17.0 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 2.5 APG

He is five years younger.
Though his per game numbers fell, this was the result of playing fewer minutes per game. His per 36 minute averages remained almost exactly the same.
His team was poorly coached and had no chemistry last year.
Deng shoots at a much higher percentage than Tayshaun Prince.
Deng’s PER is much higher, while Tayshaun is just average (around 15).

In 14 head to head games, each player’s team won 7. Deng, perhaps underrated defensively, has held Prince to 37% shooting. He has drawn two fouls per game from Prince, who normally only fouls about once a game. All evidence points to Deng being underrated, and Prince being supported by some reputation that he has never earned.

Tayshaun Prince vs. Luol Deng | NBA Gauntlet

lpgrl26 · #67 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Tayshaun: 13.2 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 3.3 APG

Has not missed a single game the past five years.
His numbers fell last season, but only because he played fewer minutes per game.
Tayshaun’s assist/turnover ratio greatly improved last season.
Prince has much greater shooting range than Deng.
He has been a winner at every level.
He has been All-Defensive (2nd team) the past four years.

Luol: 17.0 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 2.5 APG

He is five years younger.
Though his per game numbers fell, this was the result of playing fewer minutes per game. His per 36 minute averages remained almost exactly the same.
His team was poorly coached and had no chemistry last year.
Deng shoots at a much higher percentage than Tayshaun Prince.
Deng’s PER is much higher, while Tayshaun is just average (around 15).

In 14 head to head games, each player’s team won 7. Deng, perhaps underrated defensively, has held Prince to 37% shooting. He has drawn two fouls per game from Prince, who normally only fouls about once a game. All evidence points to Deng being underrated, and Prince being supported by some reputation that he has never earned.

Tayshaun Prince vs. Luol Deng | NBA Gauntlet

All i need to see to make my decision is the PO's Pistons vs Bulls. Deng got worked in the post by Prince and wilted. He also disappeared in the clutch. I really don't care about the regular season.

For all the grief Prince gets about his clutch meltdowns at least he wait until the ECF

mikhail1973 · #68 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lpgrl26

All i need to see to make my decision is the PO's Pistons vs Bulls. Deng got worked in the post by Prince and wilted. He also disappeared in the clutch. I really don't care about the regular season.

For all the grief Prince gets about his clutch meltdowns at least he wait until the ECF

I'd say that Prince is better defensively whereas Deng is more consistent offensively.

lpgrl26 · #69 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

I'd say that Prince is better defensively whereas Deng is more consistent offensively.

I'll agree with that.

2Tough4You · #70 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lpgrl26

All i need to see to make my decision is the PO's Pistons vs Bulls. Deng got worked in the post by Prince and wilted. He also disappeared in the clutch. I really don't care about the regular season.

For all the grief Prince gets about his clutch meltdowns at least he wait until the ECF

Eh, they're about the same in style of play and production. Deng's got a lot more talent than Prince, but I think he's ever softer.

I don't think either are championship quality SF's.