Come on, lets throw some stuff out there. This is starting to drive me crazy, as far as the wait.

So, let's get some stuff that we can comment on.

Trade you think will make us better, here is mine:

Biedrins for

Prince

or

Brown, Wilcox, and Atkins.

Apparently Nelson is going nuts over there, and they want to slash payroll...badly. Biedrins is their fattest contract, with 4 more years on it after this one.

Nelson, I’m told, wasn’t happy about having to give up Cartier Martin when Martin was due a guaranteed deal and was released instead. Nelson loves Tolliver even more and can’t stand Vladimir Radmanvic (for obvious reasons), so he was going to fight the Tolliver thing to the limit. Nelson likes Anthony Morrow and Kelenna Azubuike and Coby Karl and we probably couuld go on and on, as long as they’re D-Leaguers, cheap, and not bothered by his grand eccentricities. Cohan and Rowell love that. They’re in deep financial trouble, so they’re already angry at any high-priced player, just on the face of it. If Nelson can get them a cheap player or a big-salary player, they’re all for it

The other move, which is related to the first, is that in order to make room to keep Tolliver on their roster after his two 10-day contracts had run out, the Warriors had to waive a player. They decided to waive guard Speedy Claxton. At first glance, this makes sense because Claxton doesn’t play and his contract ends after this season. The fact that Claxton’s contract ends after this season, though, is what makes the move an interesting one. Claxton’s expiring contract, worth $5.2 million, could have been a valuable trade chip at the trade deadline, since so many teams are looking to clear salary this season. Waiving him gives the Warriors a little less flexibility leading up to the trade deadline. Press Democrat Here’s what the source told me: Don Nelson loves D-Leaguers, and continuously tells the front office that his coaching can turn $660k players into $4M players


You can never discount T-Mac, J. Taylor for Prince and Hamilton.

Hamilton > Ariza, and Tay on paper at least, is better than Battier. I like Taylor thrown in because I like him from college, and we could use a backup SG who is cheap and can shoot.

It's probably safe to rule out the t-Mac for Rip/Tay idea.

One possibility for salary dumping would be that idea of Rip + filler for Ray Allen. Celts have to be getting pretty desperate. I would hate to see Rip go to the C's or do anything that would make them more competitive but it would help erase some of Dumars salary malfunctions. Then Tay can be delt later or just hung onto until he expires next summer ( bring him off the bench if he does not shape up ).

I know Dumars wants quality players back but it may not happen.

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I don't think the Pistons can be any worse next year if they dump both Tay and Rip for expiring contracts.

If Dumars can get expiring contracts for Prince/Hamilton, he had better jump on that.

But I read recently on MLive that Dumars has been offered expiring contracts for them but he wants value in return. Honestly, why does Dumars over-value his players so much. What does he think he is going to get for Prince/Hamilton. Expiring contracts are value.

honestly I think hes holding out untill the deadline to SEE if he can get more value back and can ALWAYS fall back on straight dumps for salary at the deadline if need be.

I heard he was close pulling off a CP3 + 2nd round pick for Tay and Rip. Would have solved the PG problem temporarily atleast and opened up for the rooks. Damn injury!

Unless other teams swipe in before the deadline and use up all those "straight dump" players. It's a slippery slope waiting until the last minute of the last hour...

Guess the Darren Collison secret is out now (been high on him since his frosh year)... scratch that.

Rip & Kwame for Thad Young & Dalembert (one year left)

Kwame for Ty Thomas (timing is right)

Rip, Kwame and future protected 1st... Okafor & Mo Pete

Ben Wallace, Chucky & this year's 1st (top 3 protected) for Jason Thompson

Yes that was all over. Does he mean it? Last year he traded our best player for cap space.

I am one of the few who still thinks Rip has some good years left but I can't see us being competitive going forward with 23-24 mil/yr tied up in the SG spot. One of the two has to go and since he just singned Gordon I am thinking it has to be Rip.

Not so much worried about Tay since he only has a year left but we can't carry that kind of cash in the back court for another 4 years or so with ownership unwilling to pay lux tax. Just cant do it.

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Tayshaun Prince for a warm body. I think it'd be fair for both teams.