Okur, 28 points, 11 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocks tonight, yet LB played Ham over him, please justify that.

I guess Ham's "intangibles" made up for the lack of ability

We're gunna need the Jaws of Life to extricate whatever got stuck in your craw.

Now you're complaining about the rotations from 2 seasons ago, the year we won a championship.

Energy guys set the tone. The bring the house. They carry the bags, the make sure the superstars cab it home from the bar, and they are the spotters in the weight room.

They're the 50 cent Elmer's Glue that helps keep the whole ball stuck together. Without them, you've got Showtime Mark II aka the Kobe, Mailman, Shaq and Glove show. All krunk and no punk.

The "looking back at Memo" bit was cute, hmmm, the first 2,000 times. Let's face it, Mem's going to have a great NBA career so long as he stays healthy. Nothing can be done about that. Every team loses players to FA, and particularly under the old CBA, players drafted in the second round. How the heck do you think Gilbert Arenas escaped Golden State? They didn't give up on him...

You call Evans a scrub because for whatever reason, you just plain don't like him. That's tough because he's a steal at his contract value, so much so that JD was meeting with his agent during the Finals. Now if Joe is smart enough to keep DHam around for 2 Finals runs, and draft Memo, wouldn't you be willing to extend just the slightest amount of grace that perhaps he sees something in Evans, something that can be valuable in the long run?

Crying about Evans is like complaining that your car goes too fast. In the last 10 games before tonight, he lead the team in FG% (9 man rotation), and shooting 45% from beyond the arc.

For 1.5 million, he's a bloody STEAL!

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."

Uh-oh, you can tell he's worked up when the Canadian brogue comes out.

Wave, bloody well put. Seriously, you may have actually changed my mind on Evans with a very well thought out, if not eloquent argument. For 1.5 mil a year, I can live with him, but the minutes need to drop.

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When did they start teaching poetry in Canada? Must be the French Canadian part in you, which makes us Brudda's, I'm a little French.

Lets not forget the bench of the Bad Boys led by The Original Microwave, Rodman and Long John Salley. If those weren't energy guys back then I don't know who were and the truth of the matter is that only Vinnie had an all around NBA game though certainly no one could argue with Rodmans defensive and rebounding skills but most of that was accomplished with great physical conditioning and "Energizer" type hustle.

The PIstons can pay me $1.5 million and I won't care what yoiu guys post about me. Of course I would give 10% of that to help maintain this board at its current excellent high level.

Frankly I hate the term Energy Guy. IMO it seems to be an often used description of guys who produce few tangibles. Guys who have major shortcommings. Guys who get credit for following the coaches instructions to a tee because they don't have the talent to improvise in a pinch. Guys who at best become DNPCD because of matchup issues.

Guys who hustle to get a hand on an O rebound off their own miss, keeping it alive, when a more skillfull guy would have hit the shot.

Energy guys get extra credit for doing what every guy is expected to do, like dive for loose balls, take a charge ............ Ham and Curry fit the label precisely.

In my estimation Mo Evans has talent, is coachable and makes contributions that appear in black & white. He arrived RAW, and has come a loooong way in 40 games. If by seasons end Mo develops half again what he currently has these discussions will be forgotten.

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I do not see this improvement you are talking about. Could youi explain more what you see.

Here is what I see. He started the season hot on his outside shooting. Since then, he has had a pattern of getting hot on his shooting against sub 500 teams. Nine of his better games have come against the likes of Charlotte and Toronto. (Four good shooting games.)

He started the season getting offensive boards. And he has gotten them all year. But he also at the same time goes for that offensive board every single time, making you wonder if he ever heard of transition D.

On ball handling, he started at nothing. Assists were quite rare. And they still are. The team has spent a lot of effort giving him opportunities to handle the ball, trying to get him more comfortable, but so far little fruit has come from this.

Evans has had a trend of making jumpers off his own dribble of late. However, the NJ game was pretty typical for when we play against a team we are halfway worried about. One point off a free throw and thats it until garbage time.

Defensively, Mo has had a few good games this year that I can point to. Washington, where he guarded Arenas well, and both Minny games, where he did well with Hassle. The pattern I see here is that players who chiefly depend on brawn / strength, Evans can handle. But if they beat you by moving, or with some height, Evans is the wrong guy.

Oh king of diss-information (pun intended).

1- Going back 22 games (Dec 23), Evans is 22/48 (46%) in 12 games against +0.500 teams, and 30/52 (58%) in 10 games against -500 teams.

2- Four weeks ago I argued the same thing. He still looks for the offensive board, but in the games I have seen (all but 2 or 3) has not caused us to be burned in transition since.

3- There are other ways to get your club a score. His blocks, steals and O-rebs add up to about two additional possessions per game.

4- Yeah, kick him for an off game in NJ. He had plenty of company. See item #1.

5- Brawn, strength, quickness, height. Name anyone in the league that dosen't have trouble with opponents possessing one or more of these traits. Kobe taught Mo to stay grounded. He will discover his leaping ability and tenacity can make up for disadvantages. Just watch Ben.

When the season began Evans much like Delfino (last year) could not guard a fence post. His help D stank as did his mon on man. Both have improved considerably.
Mo used to try and make something happen on every touch, looking awful in the process. He now allows the game to come to him, making plays when opportunities arrise. Lee, Evans has shown steady improvement, which you obviously don't see or want to.

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