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Why don't someone tell Sheed that. Sheed has had several lapses in intensity throughout his Piston's career and his paycheck is about 3x what DMC makes.

Everyone loves the great games by Sheed, but alot of people forget about the 1-13 games where he is content to "lazily" fire away 3 pters instead of working out in the post.

Shouldn't Sheed be held to the same standard? It is a TEAM GAME, if Sheed can "loaf" from time to time, why is Darko villified for doing the same in GARBAGE TIME?

Jack, I havn't really seen Sheed "loaf" around like you say. The threes bother me alot, but I always attributed that as being a part of his game that kills us and keeps us in the game at times. Never have I percieved this as him being lazy. Besides, he always appears to bring it on offense. I just don't see a Darko vs Sheed comparison as having any legs. Am I missing something?

Well right now Sheed is in the midst of one of his "good streaks" but it wasn't too long ago that we lost to NJ and Sheed was 1-11 from 3pt land and collected only 3 rebounds in 43 minutes. That sure doesn't sound like an ALL OUT EFFORT.

Lest you forget about Sheed's string of opposing PF's going off on him earlier this year. He gave up 37 to Bosh, 30+ to Zach Randolph, 25+ to a rookie named Diogu, 24 and 12 to MEMO (who according to some is nothing compared to Sheed) and AGAIN to Memo he gave up 12 and 17 boards on a night where Sheed only snagged 7 boards.

Sheed doesn't always get a hand up on D for perimeters shooters, he sags off his man alot. He has gotten lit up several times this year. Like I said, he is on a tear right now, so many won't remember those early season struggles for him.

Sheed TAKES PLAYS OFF. That can't be denied. Lately he is playing like a man possessed but to suggest that he is going out and giving 100% effort everygame is ABSURD.

sheed can take games off because he's a vet. that's the standard answer. darko wasn't allowed to take garbage time off cause he was a young unproven player.

darko sure seems to be playing hard in that magic jersey. seems like he wasn't a bad player at all just wanted to play in meaningful minutes. some around here are even glad we taught him a lesson and made him learn to play hard at all times. i think darko and the magic are giving the pistons the lessons on how to treat and motivate a young talented player.

that explains it. everyone here knew sheed could play a great game even if he sucked one night. no one here knows if darko could play good, and all the games he barely played, and didn't play well caused us to think he's bad.

I still blame it all on lb. When we didn't have sheed or dice we had darko, but brown didn't play him. when flip took the coaching job he had both wallaces and dice. darko was sill like a rookie so darko (a rookie) had to beat out 3 all stars for minutes.

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This is a better comparison thread. Darko has size on BBen and JMax. Bigs are always tempermental, Beer always "loafted" up and down the court.
Athleticly BBen is better than Darko but not by much. Which is saying a lot.

Yeah Jack, Sheeds the root of all evil...geeesh!
You really don't comprehend Sheed value... I'm sure you think that Memo would have been as effective defending J. ONeal and KG too?
Sheed communicates... he intimidates... he stretches the "D" and he's unselfish.
Ben owns the boards... and that would be the case with 98% of the players in the league playing next to him.
Sheed isn't brooding in the locker room (like some others we YKW)... he's building their confidence.

Alright you're in Vegas.... you need the winning shot or a crucial stop to pull out the game... your money goes on Darko or Sheed?... Memo over Sheed?
Darko loafs... Memo loafs... hell even MJ loafed to catch a breath
Darko's 3 years from being compared in tight games to Sheed.... so why are we comparing them now?

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Sheed alway has been the guy some folks love to hate. Most of them have no clue when it comes to Sheed's defensive contributions. They prefer to point to stats.

Comparing Sheed to Darko is like comparing Paul Pierce to Rodney White. One is a legit all star and the other can't earn a spot on a playoff roster. There is no comparison.

wtf. Meaningful minutes are minutes you make meaningful. Why is that concept treated like a floating variable.

I'm the first to agree that many of Sheeds 3's suck, are ill-timed and call into question his judgement in use of the game clock. You won't get an argument out of me that Coach Saunders is too submissive in aspects of his game clock management and what he allows to take place on the floor in critical moments. The number 1 offender in taking bad shots late in games is Sheed.

But he comes ready to play and plays with emotion. Arguing that his defense is his problem totally ignores the help defenders. It isn't his D, it's his low percentage late game shots you should be complaining about, cause that's becoming a concern. It's Flips penchant for not using more disciplined O sets in the last 5 minutes of close games you should complaining about.

However, comparing anything the Shanker does or has done in the brevity of his so far crappy career to Sheeds game is ridiculous. It says far more about how far some fans are willing to stoop to defend their rantings than the real record of their pet player. Cause he has no viable NBA history, none, zada, zilch. You're comparing imaginative theory to fact.

Sheeds always been a bonafide baller. He may need more discipline but you can't talk away what he's already accomplished to talk up someone who hasn't accomplished anything, not and be taken seriously by anyone other than a fellow jock sniffer.....

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Perfect post!