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Originally Posted by DeetroitDynasty-e I think he is better than them at playing Center. I think that Center takes ...

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Old 08-12-2007, 10:16 PM
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I think he is better than them at playing Center. I think that Center takes its toll, and if Rasheed is playing a lot at the 5 he'll pick up fouls and tax his body. Same goes for Dyess if they are put in that position more than they were last year, with Nazr and C-Webb out of the line-up, they will. I think Nazr can and will contribute between 23 and 18 minutes a game if or until he is traded or completely upstaged by AJ.
This pretty much says it for me. Nazr is the best 5 we have right now. Sheed may be better, but not for extended minutes, as it's harder to play the center from the 3 point line.
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This pretty much says it for me. Nazr is the best 5 we have right now. Sheed may be better, but not for extended minutes, as it's harder to play the center from the 3 point line.
This minutes thing is not a valid argument for playing Mohammed. JMAX can play some center minutes, as not all centers in the league are a mismatch to him. For instance, he looks pretty darn good vs. Kamen. (By the way, since JMAX owns Kamen at both ends of the floor-just why is Kamen playing center if JMAX can't?) Further, it would not hurt us that much to develop Samb somewhat just by giving him some minutes. Like 3 minutes at the end of the 1st quarter, 2 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter, and 5 minutes to end the 2nd quarter. On average, lets assume JMAX gives us 10 minutes a game at center to match the 10 Samb gives us. Now you are down to just 24 minutes more to cover. 12 for Sheed, and 12 for Dyess. (Note, JMAX and Sheed would be starting-and switching roles as matchups dictate.)

To those who would give the 10 minutes to Mohammed instead of Samb-one, I say Samb is already as good as Mohammed-which is not saying much in my opinion, and Samb has a lot of upside yet.
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This minutes thing is not a valid argument for playing Mohammed. JMAX can play some center minutes, as not all centers in the league are a mismatch to him. For instance, he looks pretty darn good vs. Kamen. (By the way, since JMAX owns Kamen at both ends of the floor-just why is Kamen playing center if JMAX can't?) Further, it would not hurt us that much to develop Samb somewhat just by giving him some minutes. Like 3 minutes at the end of the 1st quarter, 2 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter, and 5 minutes to end the 2nd quarter. On average, lets assume JMAX gives us 10 minutes a game at center to match the 10 Samb gives us. Now you are down to just 24 minutes more to cover. 12 for Sheed, and 12 for Dyess. (Note, JMAX and Sheed would be starting-and switching roles as matchups dictate.)

To those who would give the 10 minutes to Mohammed instead of Samb-one, I say Samb is already as good as Mohammed-which is not saying much in my opinion, and Samb has a lot of upside yet.
1. It is Kaman not Kamen, though both names probably are German.

2. JMax has lost 30 pounds since last year and now is probably no more than 5 - 10 pounds heavier than AJ at the most. JMax is not a NBA 5 has never been a real 5 and never will be a 5.

3. JMax does not own Kaman. Stop making up stuff to try an back up your posts.

In game one last year between the Pistons and the Clippers.

Kaman 12 points 9 boards
JMax 2 points 1 board

NBA - Los Angeles Clippers/Detroit Pistons Box Score Monday February 12, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports

In game two

Kaman 6 points 7 boards
JMax at PF 9 points 2 boards

C-Webb at center for the Pistons 19 points 11 boards

NBA - Detroit Pistons/Los Angeles Clippers Box Score Sunday March 11, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports

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Career NBA Points: Nazr - 3,594 Samb - 0
Career NBA Rebounds: Nazr - 2,881 Samb - 0
Career NBA Minutes: Nazr - 9,546 Samb - 0

Does this mean Nazr is better than Samb? No. Should we wait until Samb plays at least 1 or 2 minutes in an actual NBA game before we compare the two guys? Perhaps. I think the preseason games could be meaningful for many of the Pistons this year. If Samb competes in preseason games, perhaps he'll see some token minutes this year. Otherwise, look for Samb to lead the NBDL in blocked shots. Will Samb be a regular and integral part of the Pistons rotation? Not this year.
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JMax killed Kaman in his first SL.
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JMax killed Kaman in his first SL.
What year was that alleged to have happened in?

I don't believe that the Pistons and Clippers played in this year's summer league.

P.S. If you can find something please show a link with a box score and any relevant commentary on the game to substantiate your contention.

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What year was that alleged to have happened in?

I don't believe that the Pistons and Clippers played in this year's summer league.

P.S. If you can find something please show a link with a box score and any relevant commentary on the game to substantiate your contention.

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I actually found something from Congoman that talks about a game in the VSL in 2005. Maybe that is what you and Lee are remembering.

To go from one report that says that JMax covered Kaman in one game 2 years ago in the VSL when they were both rookies to saying that JMax killed Kaman and can and should play center for the Pistons is a bit of a very very long stretch to say the least.

This report also doesn't say anything about JMax killing Kaman. In fact all it says is that he covered Kaman and that Kaman repeatedly backed down Darko.

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Maxiell is the real deal. He played the 4 all game and covered Kaman and another 7 footer alot. He not only has long arms but has some hops as well. He has a good feel around the basket and a nice (but flat) 12 footer.
Darko played much better than the stats. He got backed into the basket by Kaman 3 times in a row but other than that they played pretty even. Darko is not afraid to mix up even with a clown like Kaman. I talked with one of his countrymen…Zarko Caabarkapa, who plays for Golden State. He played agaist Darko in Serbia. He said that Darko is a great player…he just hasn’t showed it yet. He said we will be very happy with Darko when he finally gets comfortable.

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In fact according to Congoman Kaman JMax didn't play the 5 in that game but the 4.

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way to dig for that little bit. I looked on google but VSL didn't seem to go back to 2005.
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way to dig for that little bit. I looked on google but VSL didn't seem to go back to 2005.
I got it by typing in the applicable proper nouns which in this case were Maxiell Kaman. I left out VSL or any connection to the summer league at all to broaden the search.
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