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Old 10-21-2005, 03:07 PM
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Alley oop rotation

Here is my half-court alley oop rotation. 2 good passers who can spread out the D, 2 high flyers, and a bonafied banger (who also gets his share of oops).

Billups
Arroyo
Evans
Dupree
Ben
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If you want to Oop why not Bup-Bup, Tay, JMax, Sheed, Ben,
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Big lineup

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What's in a name, does it matter on Dee who is the 2, it's a zone, if they drive pass Tay can they get pass Wx2? On Off Dyess is the 1st option with Tay at point. It's a big lineup, could it work?
Forgive my interuption, but I think what they are trying to say is a fast guard will make tons of easy points on fastbreaks, of course, to do a fastbreak you have to get the def reb, but the way I see it I agree speed will be a concern with your prosposed lineup. How are they going to rotate fast to cover the outside shooters? How is Tay going to respond to the traps and the pressure from smaller guards? Does he have the skills to be a PG at this level? Too many questions to answer.

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Tay probably can handle that. My small line up: Carlos Arroyo, Maurice Evans, Rip, Tay, and Ben. We can get very easy baskets, and we got 2 great perimeter defenders in Tay, and Evans. Best defender in Ben, and a good defender in rip.

Big lineup: Chauncey, J Max, Dice, Sheed, and Darko. Chauncey will manhandle almost any pg and play good defense. J Max can cram it in almost anyones face and he blocks shots, Dice, and Sheed can take you inside or out and both play good defense, Darko can drive you to the hole, post-up, and block shots. This lineup is a very good passing lineup too.
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JD likes bigs so I gave a big lineup. I don't even have our best players out there in Bup-Bup and Rip. You have to admit it would be hard to shoot over them. It would be a zone Dee probably standing around the key. I would take my chances against an opponent small lineup.

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If Flip goes to zone how about this lineup.
Tay, Dyess, Sheed, Ben and Darko. Let's see someone try and drive on them.
wasn't this my joke lineup? remember when i first joined the detnews forums i had this 'big' lineup with ben playing shooting guard and then the 'small' lineup with like arroyo, hunter, billups, acker, and someone else lol...i wish i saved that one
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I'm free associating like everyone else. I'd love to see BaBaBen play SG. He'd, We'd sink or swim.
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On the right track

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Not that I think it would happen but.....
PG-Delfino
SG-MoEvans
SF-Tayshaun
PF-Rasheed
C-Darko.

This lineup is big, strong, fast and all defense, save Delfino.

Delfino, Tay, Darko and Sheed are really good passers.
Delfino, Tay, and Evans can really finish at the rim on the break.
Delfino, Tay and Evans are about as good of perimeter rebounders as you'll find in the league.
Rasheed is a good of a frontcourt defender as there is in the league, Darko is blocking shots very well, Tay and Evans have shown that they can block shots also.
With the exception of Sheed it's also a very young lineup.
All three players can shoot from the perimeter as far as the 3pt line, except maybe Darko. DMC has shown he can shoot from that far out w/out changing his mechanics, they just haven't dropped, same can be said for Delfino. Evans, Tay and Sheed have demonstrated in games that they can make it happen from beyond the arc.

LEE356, ROTATION GURU...GIMME SOME FEEDBACK.
You got to look at what a unit needs to function, and who has those skills. Not a bad unit at all you came up with. On defense, Mo Evans would guard the point guard, while Tay guards the shooting guard, and Delfino guards the small forward.

On offense, Delfino plays the point, and brings the ball up better than anyone else on the team. His first option would be to take it right in himself and dunk it. Next option would be Evans, the Tay, Darko, and Sheed for dunks on the end of that fast break.

If you get into a halfcourt set, you got Tay to help Delfino run things in the backcourt while Evans works around the basket. You know, if Delfino gets his shot to come around, and I believe he will, you got five guys in this unit who can all hit outside shots. (And all five guys can score inside.) Thats a ton of offense. Yep, I like it a lot. Keep it up. Give us more.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:29 AM
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A possible rotation, using 10 guys, but not in two distinct units.

Billups, Arroyo, Rip, Delfino, Tay, Mo Evans, Ben, Dyess, Sheed, Darko.

This is not to say Acker and Maxiell can't crack the rotation. But lets look at how we can mix and match these ten guys.

Usual starters, but Dyess comes in for Ben 6 minutes into the game, while Arroyo comes in for Billups. This gives a unit of Arroyo, Rip, Tay, Dyess, Sheed.

To start the 2nd quarter, Arroyo, Evans, Delfino, Dyess, Darko.

Three minutes into the 2nd quarter, Arroyo and Dyess are done for the half and you have CB, Evans, Delfino, Ben, and Darko.

The starters return for the last 4 minutes.

Repeat in the 2nd half.

Minutes go : Billups 30, Hamilton 32, Tay 32, Ben 30, Sheed 32
and the subs:Arroyo 18, Evans 16, Delfino 16, Dyess 18, Darko 16

For units minutes: 20 for the starters. 6 minutes for an intact 2nd unit. 12 minutes for the Arroyo, Rip, Tay, Dyess, Sheed unit. 10 minutes for CB, Evans, Delfino, Ben, and Darko.

One last thing: How do you modify this to get that unit posted by KGreg, Tay, Mo Evans, Delfino, Sheed, Darko. Well, three of these guys are subs, so you just put Tay in for Arroyo and Sheed in for Dyess to start the 2nd quarter. To do this, play Dale Davis the last three minutes or so of the 1st quarter so that Sheed can be rested for the fast breaking. Also play Maxiell at small forward for three minutes or so to rest Tay at the end of the first quarter. Arroyo and Dyess would lose three minutes every time you do this, but that would not hurt them that much.

If that unit is working real well, you can easily extend it without modifying the basic rotation much. CB would just get a bit more rest while Tay plays a bit more. Ben would get a bit more rest while Sheed plays a bit more. If Sheed and Tay play too long right here, Dale Davis or Darko can play the end of the quarter for Sheed while Maxiell or Evans or Delfino can play the end of the quarter for Tay. No problem.
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starting 5

A starting 5 Iwould like to see before the season is over would be CB(PG),Tay(SG),Darko(SF),Sheed(PF)andBen(C).This would mean that Darko had really come into his own an could handle the SF position.Just think of the problem's this big line-up would create.Rip could be the go too guy for whatever 2nd unit you like.
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