I just thought I would come up with some realistic trades the Pistons could make to dismantle our disappointing front court and hopefully improve the team.

#1- Rasheed, McDyess, Evans for Kenyon Martin and Nene.
#2- Rasheed and Ben for Garnett.
#3- Rasheed for Juwan Howard and Stromile Swift.
#4- Rasheed and 1st rdp for Raef LeFrentz and Al Jefferson.
#5- Rasheed, McDyess, Evans for Jalen Rose and Channing Frye.
#6- Rasheed for Lamar Odom.

Originaly this thread was titled "trading the wallaces" but I can not figure out any way to trade Big Ben, at least not for anything decent. Yes Ben's offense sucks, but looking around the league that is true for most Center's. WHY DID WE HAVE TO TRADE DARKO! WHHHHYYYYYYY?????

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Because Darko asked to be traded. I wish the Darko pimps would get that through their thick noggins.

Some interesting ideas Dave. I'm not trying to down these, but throwing some counterpoints in for thought.

Martin is really overrated, and terribly overpaid.

Personally, not a big KG fan. As someone put it on some forum recently, the next clutch shot he makes will be his first.

This might be the best idea of the bunch.

Sheed and a first rounder for 2 underachievers. Jefferson is an inconsistent version of what we hope JMax will be. Makes sense if the Pistons were gunna draft an underachiever with the first round pick. LOL.

Big sacrifice in size. I think Rose's massive deal comes off the books this year so it would create a lot of cap relief quickly. Plus, of all the Pistons, Sheed and Dice would probably be the most willing to play for LB again.

If I'm the Lakers, I might not do this deal.

It wasn't going to work out. Kudos to Joe for cutting the cord early rather than doing what the Bad Boys GM did, holding onto (out for) William Bedford as the team got older.

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."

OK. WHY DID DARKO ASK TO BE TRADED!!!!!!...WHYYYYYYYY???? Oh yeah because he never played and the organization is built around a player 10 years older, 6 inches shorter, who shoots free throws as if he were surround by a swarm of bee's.

And is a 4 time DPOY. A 4 time All-Star and a NBA Champion.

People hate to admit it, but Ben has been as valuable to this team as Olajuwon was to the 90's Rockets. As Ewing was to the 90's Knicks. As JKidd was to the 2002 and 2003 Nets.

Not every player is a catalyst. Folks just have a hard time expanding their minds to understand that a player can have big impact without scoring.

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."

Stop pining for Darko. The dude is gone. Get over it. You should be more pissed off that Dumars drafted a "project," rather than someone who could help the team right away because that player would probably be helping us in the current series.

[quote=themicrowave]Some interesting ideas Dave. I'm not trying to down these, but throwing some counterpoints in for thought.


I guess Martin and Sheed have something in common. Here's a thought Kenyon scores the same amount of points as Rasheed on a higher FG%, and he has a better Career Playoff PPG average. He draws twice as many fouls as Sheed and might actually get us some points in the paint. We lose some defense but Nene is going to be a very good player and would make up for losing Darko.


Well, clutch shooting isn't exactly our frontcourt's speciality. KG would give us consistant production every night and we don't lose anything in the scoring or rebounding department. The toughest thing would be finding a Center. We might have to adopt the Phoenix Suns small ball style of Bball.


Sheed is the classic underachiever. He is one of the best talents in the league, yet isn't that much more productive than LaFrentz. Al Jefferson just gives us a young guy who has shown flashes. Hopefully he can turn into something. I'm not talking about giving up the Orlando pick just so you know.


I don't think LB will be back in New York so its not really an issue. Trading Dyess opens up a spot for Maxiell and Amir Johnson to develop. Enough of McDyess taking rotation spots the should belong to our young talents.


Maybe not. Personally, I think Sheed is a better fit for their team.


Your probably right. Just look at Orlando now, we pretty much just past that problem child on to them- what was their record after that trade again?

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I'm not dising Ben or his accomplishments. I just think the Darko situation was handled very poorly. Trading him to clear some capspace for a limited player on the decline was DUMB and will be one of the biggest blunders in NBA history. It will probably be bigger than drafting him in the first place.

Martin's #s and games played were pretty good before he jacked up his knee. Nene is another player whose hype exceeds his production.

Sheed has been clutch as a shooter. How many games have you seen him miss late shots down the stretch and lose? Not too many. Granted he doesn't take a lot of shots, but when the team needs a couple post up baskets or a big 3, he's been there 9 times out of 10.

Small ball won't fly in the East. It's not just size, it's personnel. There are only 2 PGs who can run that system. Nash and to a lesser degree, Kidd. Billups is not a good enough "quick" decision maker to run a freestyle offense.

If you're measuring production strictly in raw stats, then Sheed isn't impressive. If you're comparing LaFrentz's defense to Sheed's, there really is no similarity. I was joking along with you about the 2 underachievers for Sheed and an underachieving pick....

McDyess ain't that old. He's only holding down the spot because no one is man enough to take it from him. He's not the most energetic player or brilliant defender. I'd bet dollars to cents that JMax will steal that job or put a big dent in it next season.

That's irrelevant. I watched his first and second games in ORL. He never ONCE played with that much energy or passion here. It's like lamenting that your crazy ex-girlfriend found a man and they are happy together. Not every situation is equal.

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."

I am pissed we wasted a #2 pick in one of the greatest draft classes ever. I am also pissed we traded him before we knew what we had. I'm all kinds of pissed at the situation and you should be too. Don't delude yourself man- just because Darko didn't endear himself to you doesn't mean he won't be a darn good player.