We might not know which stream Carlos is fishing this summer, but we do know he was slow, lazy, and out of shape at Summer League last year.

Mad Hatter is a special breed. I knocked heads with him for weeks until we saw each other's view. Consider him a professional disturber and rectifier of incorrect (in his mind) opinions. It's never personal with him.

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."

Roscoe, here in America, that saying goes:

Fool me once, shame on shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again.

... coming off knee surgery and a having not seen an NBA court in months? What about when he came back during the regulars season? All reports out of summer league say Max is out of shape this year, and he didn't even have surgery. That's what happens after riding the pine for a year.

Delfino's knee was just fine for VSL last year. In fact, in my opinion, he should have been on the Pistons playoff roster in 04-05.

Well Fresh, you don't have to reply to me if you don't want to. No problem. As Roscoe said...it's NEVER personal with me as long as it ain't no name calling. You can speculate about what you think I don't know because you don't know what I know. But let's look at what we do know. As of this very minute; J-Max is honing his game and Delfino is reelin em in. Which is the act of a hungry player?

I understand your desire for Delfino to succeed, and believe it or not; I share that desire. But if HE don't want it for himself, why should I? I look forward to your upcoming reports about how Delfino is "tearing up the league" with his "stellar play" against "superior competition" once the Argentine season starts. Don't disappoint now...ya heah?

Hey, I thought bballjay was a master debater? Oh... master baiter. Nevermind.

Sorry, but that's not how that saying goes at all.

"Fool me once... shame on.... shame on you. Fool me................(blank stare).................. Fool me, you can't get fooled again."

George Dubya Bush

Ah, crap. You beat me to it! That's what happens when you post before finishing a thread.

Okay, okay. What the heck is that?!

Look at the numbers:
FG% Jmax-42.6 Delf-35.9
FT% Jmax-33 Delf-57.5
O-Reb Jmax-12 Delf-13
D-Reb Jmax-16 Delf-42
Total Red Jmax-28 Delf-55
Assists Jmax-3 Delf 38
Blocks Jmax-5 Delf-6
Steals Jmax-4 Delf-22
PTS Jmax-60 Delf-116

How is that "MUCH BETTER"?