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I may have been wrong about Tay. I love his game. I love the way he is quiet and goes ...

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Old 10-17-2005, 04:39 AM
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OH well....

I may have been wrong about Tay.

I love his game. I love the way he is quiet and goes about his game. Just like Joe once did.

He is my favorite player of this current crop of Pistons.

Right now, I'm disappointed. He doesn't seem too be to excited about coming back and seems to be resigned to the fact that he'll play his rookie contract out and go for the big money.

Tay, you were welcomed here when others didn't. I'm hoping just as all the others that you continue to hone and improve your game here in Detroit. Sometimes, money isn't the answer man. I know I know, it's a business.

Guess I'm heading the wagon of the Keep-Dupree campaign. Tay, if you don't wanna be here, I'm pretty sure Joe'd be glad to accomodate you.

Sorry guys, just a bit disappointed in Tay's comments lately.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:39 AM
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Without Tay?

The 2 immediate prospects are Delfino and Johnson. Both are not ready but could be next season if things go sour with Tay's negotiations.

Out of Wallace/Darko Sheed is the only one with experience at the 3 but he is much better suited for the 4.

I can't remember where I saw this but there was an interview with Hammons and he said something about some future tough choices having to be made with some of the vets. Seemed to hint around that a trade or 2 is not out of the question as some of the younger players develope. I took this to mean that if Darko comes around then there will be room made for him but it can apply in Prince's case as well.

Just goes to show that things can still be dynamic and Dumars will not hurt the long term health of the team to please some agents unrealistic demands.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:15 AM
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I coulnd't picture us without Tayshaun in the front court...but if he's asking for a max contract it's going to happen. We'll definately miss his lanky arms and his defensive speciality; but he's replaceable. If Darko keeps playing the way he does he can be 3rd-4th scoring option if he steps up his game even more.

If Tayshaun goes, expect some scary changes to occur in the next 2-4 years.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:40 AM
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I think Sam has the right take on this. Let's not make too much of a few scattered quotes, especially in a league where guys say far more antagonistic things during contract negotiations.

Small forward in the event of a lengthy Tay absence would probably be Evans.
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He has NEVER played like an All-Star. In my opinion, he will never be an All-Star. All homerism aside, Tay will probably never be a 18/6/6 SF. He's just not assertive enough. He's a man, not THE MAN.
Strangest part is - he is not even doing it right now during negotiations. You'd think if he really believes he is worth a max contract he'd be playing more aggressive. Look at Sheed, who is already paid and playing for pride in meaningless games.
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16Mile....dude get over LB PLEASE!!!!!! If you don't like a coach you crap it up while he's here like Delfino did. You don't shine under the dude and then crap when he leaves, that actually supports a theory that you hated to see the departure of the coach.

This is business and Tay's agent is the negotiator. His job is to get the most he can for his client. With most agent's it always comes down to my guy has to get what so and so (with similiar skills, numbers and age got). Tay's contract will be a derivative of Larry Hughes and Joe Johnson's deals. They're probably arguing over the sixth year, which Detroit has being Tay's home squad, that would push Tay's contract to be worth around $60 million.
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Bit of a stretch to theorize that Tay's contract demands have anything to do with playing for Larry Brown. Scratch that. A helluva stretch.

The reality is that Joe's reported offer is more than fair, and Tay wants to be paid like an All-Star.

He has NEVER played like an All-Star. In my opinion, he will never be an All-Star. All homerism aside, Tay will probably never be a 18/6/6 SF. He's just not assertive enough. He's a man, not THE MAN.

Tayshaun letting his agent do the talking for him. This is very bad. He needs to tell his agent to knock it off before he alienates people. These agents get greedy and it is the players job to cut these guy's off. I personally don't think he is worth 50 million but it is a fair deal market wise but 60 or 70 million??? Please... I figuired we would not be able to keep everybody and maybe Tay is the one guy that gets away. For 70 million we can get a lot more production than what Tay is providing.
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Tayshaun letting his agent do the talking for him. This is very bad. He needs to tell his agent to knock it off before he alienates people. These agents get greedy and it is the players job to cut these guy's off. I personally don't think he is worth 50 million but it is a fair deal market wise but 60 or 70 million??? Please... I figuired we would not be able to keep everybody and maybe Tay is the one guy that gets away. For 70 million we can get a lot more production than what Tay is providing.
my feelings exactly.
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:59 AM
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Tayshaun letting his agent do the talking for him. This is very bad. He needs to tell his agent to knock it off before he alienates people. These agents get greedy and it is the players job to cut these guy's off.
Spoken like a true HOMER. Who's suppossed to negotiate for him?? His Mom?? It's the job of Duffy to get Tay a deal comparable to what his peers of similiar skills and age get...period...that's HIS JOB.
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Spoken like a true HOMER. Who's suppossed to negotiate for him?? His Mom?? It's the job of Duffy to get Tay a deal comparable to what his peers of similiar skills and age get...period...that's HIS JOB.
I agree that it is his job to get him as much money as possible....but that doesn't mean Tay has to take it. I'm sure the agents of players like Shaq and Garnett are not doing cartwheels when their clients proclaim they want to restructure their deals for less money for the team's success. Nor does an agent of a player like Mike Finley jump for joy when told that he doesn't care what the market rate is he rather play for a contender. To say that Tay's agent is doing the talking is to give Tay credit for understanding the opportunity he has here in this city. This is a classy franchise that one should be proud to be a part of...instead of asking for the world because the market dictates so.

Agents are in this business to make money, period. Championships and sentimental value mean absolutely nothing.

Tay should definitely be paid, but to ask to be the highest paid Piston is absolutely ludacris. The Pistons offer is fair. If Tay signs with an inferior ball club/managment he'll be begging to be back in Detroit under Joe's vision a year later.
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