Flip Murray can help this team a lot. When he was out their with the starters he never forced stupid shots and was very solid. If he stops taking stupid shots, and tries to penetrate and score in the flow of the offense he could really help this team. If he can play well our bench will be very solid. Hopefully Flip S. will play the bench even in crunch time.

One game isn't a big enough sample, but maybe it's really true that he's better as a starter. If that's the case, then there's gotta be a team that needs a backcourt starter that will give us something for him. If not now, wait for the deadline.

I'd trade him to New Orleans right now, they're struggling in the PG position since Paul went down. I'm not sure how the salary cap works but picking up someone like Desmond Mason or Pargo would be a good addition.

If you are judging him after this Suns game, then you are right. However, he started in this game. He has to be a starter to be that good consistently. So what are we gonna do about that? Trade CB or Rip? Or bench either CB or Rip?

I would say none of the above. Unless he change his attitude and start to play D, the way Detroit Basketball is played, he has to go.

flip murray sucks. i was at the game and he sucks. yeah he scored one on one on steve nash that does not make you a good player. most of his shots were forced and selfish. when he played with the starters he sucked. blaylock is a better point guard. he didn't play a lick of d all game.

Yeah, but we're desperate at the PG position as well since we need a somehow solid backup for CB. This team has no need for another SF/PF or C but for a PG/SG to come off the bench.
I don't think he is any longer- at 39, he surely isn't as fast as he used to be back in his old Hawks- days.

Flip can help the way Kelly Tripucka would help. He can score but you won't get any defense in return.

This type of player is useful to bad teams or teams transitioning to a winning squad. They may not win you games but they will create the impression of competitiveness.

I rewatched all of Will Blalock's minutes last night just focusing on him. Defensively he didn't contribute much but he also didn't make a lot of glaring errors. The kid could probably benefit from some attention in training camp.

On offense, Will did a lot of good things. He brings the ball up quick, he initiates the offense, he looks to setup Maxiell, or put the ball in Rip/Delfino's hands. People are ragging on his lack of scoring, and then admit that they like he is a more pure PG. The grass is always greener.

Last night in 9 minutes, he was -1. This was mostly playing with other bench players. Flip Murray played with the starters and finished -6 in 38 minutes.

I was surprised while reviewing the game that Flip Murray did have several sequences where he gave up the ball quickly, the weakside crossover on Nash came on a play where he gave it to Sheed and made a strong move to get the ball back. But for the most part, Flip doesn't move a lot and his lack of a jumper doesn't create spacing so without the ball, you could argue that he is doing as much or as little as Blalock.

The thing that separates a winner from a loser is the ability to make your teammates better. When Flip had that break and faked a pass to score the layup, that was a loser move. In that situation, you feed Tayshaun and get the thinman pumped up. It's something that Rip (despite his numerous turnovers) has mastered. You feed your running mate who gives up touches in the set offense so you can get yours.

Considering how many shots he takes, does Rip usually look like he is forcing it? Except when he is stone cold from the field, heck no. Billups and Murray look like this at times, even if they are hitting.

I'm hoping we can go .500 or slightly better with Billups out. Flip doesn't have a developed team game. He might be awesome at one-on-one basketball, but I know that he isn't so good on ISOs that he will draw double teams or take over games.

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Lot of opinions about Flip Murray.

Are we better off with Flip at backup PG or Carlos Arroyo?

That's actually a good idea. I like Pargo. I don't think NOK would do it though.

Jr is a chucker that is just out for his next contract... Roscoe's point is right on about not making the TEAM better.