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No, Coach Hill is a sandbagger.
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I thought this was kind of funny.



He has saying that back in the 90's when we used to get bounced in the 1st round. His famous pressure is on them montra never worked back then.

8th is enough for Magic - Orlando Sentinel : Top Sports 8th is enough for Magic - Orlando Sentinel : Top Sports

Looks like they were hoping for the Cavs but are making the best of it.

Here is a writers blog

DEE-TROIT BASKET-BALL!
That's what they have to listen to for the first two playoff games at The Palace, which will be anything but. It will be a house of horrors. Count on it.
Oh, the Pistons won't sweep the Magic.
That's not the Pistons way.
The Pistons haven't swept a playoff opponent in any round the past six seasons.
They just whip you and send you home when the need arises.
Orlando Sentinel - Magic deserve fate if it's Detroit by
Lol, yeah Dwight is funny tell him to go work on his free-throws.

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Re: Magic Series

unlike milwaukee and philly the previous 2 years, the magic don't have that 'one' guy who can steal a game from us, like AI and Redd. dhoward should be good practice in case we have to play shaq in round 2.
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When I watched the end of the Indy/Washington game last night the announcers were commenting on Dwight Howard saying he wants Detroit...I was thinking what a stupid thing that was to say. Now, reading the article I see it was described as "gallows humor". If Grant Hill plays like he did the last time we played the Magic this won't be easy.

I'd much rather that we play the Wizards but Indy decided to rest their star instead of preserving the integrity of the playoff seedings by actually trying to win.
Exactly. I got the impression that they were watching the end of that game hoping that the Wiz would lose so they would not have to face the Pistons. Since it happened they all made light of it.
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Re: Bring on the Magic :: 2007 Playoffs Round 1

Also remember guys. There are no matchups that favor the Magic except Howard and the Pistons know how to shut him down. They did a very good job at that in the last game.

I think we are going to sweep this one. Lot of built up aggression over last years dissapointment and the Magic just happen to be here.
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Re: Bring on the Magic :: 2007 Playoffs Round 1

Love D. Howard, but he can't shoot free throws, he consistently gets traveling calls and have no mid range game to speak of.

CB owns Jameer Nelson.

If this series is not a sweep, I would be totally surprised, and if the Magic wins this series, the Magic did not beat us, we beat ourselves.
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Re: Bring on the Magic :: 2007 Playoffs Round 1

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GRANT HILL

Could this be Hill's final playoff run? He's 34 and has hinted he might be ready to retire. Hill's season has been inconsistent, marked by periods of strong play and 17 games missed with various injuries. He's shown he still can muster flashes from his Pistons days, slashing to the basket. Hill averaged 14.4 points, 3.6 rebounds and 2.1 assists in 30.9 minutes. The Magic, perhaps, derive more from Hill off the court, as his classy veteran presence will be relied upon to guide a young team experiencing its first taste of the postseason.

DARKO MILICIC

Yes, it's the one and only Darko, former Pistons hope for the future and now the subject of cascading boos every time he touches the ball at The Palace. Milicic didn't mince words when the Pistons traded him in February 2006, saying his 2 1/2 seasons in Detroit were the most miserable of his life. Milicic's get-out-of-jail-free trade has resulted in more playing time, but the jury still is out on his effectiveness. He's had moments of brilliance (a career-high 21 points Feb. 14), but there have been more periods of inconsistency.

DWIGHT HOWARD

He's the man, literally and figuratively, for the Magic. He's arguably the biggest young star the Magic have had since the heady days of Shaquille O'Neal in the early-to-mid-90s. It's easy to forget Howard is 20, after seeing his numbers: 17.6 points, 12 rebounds and 1.9 blocks, and he started every game. Howard is strong, fearless and smart. His weakness? Howard is one of the NBA's worst free-throw shooters at 58.6 percent.

HEDO TURKOGLU

For some reason, it seems Turkoglu has been around forever. But the Magic's most experienced sharpshooter is 28. He's the first Turkish-born player in the NBA, paving the way for other countrymen such as former Pistons center Mehmet Okur. Defenders can't sleep when Turkoglu roams the perimeter -- he's launched 281 3-pointers this season, making 38.8 percent. He averaged 13.3 points in 31.1 minutes.

JAMEER NELSON

He's going to face a tough challenge trying to keep the more experienced Chauncey Billups in check. Nelson is in his third year in the league. He became one of the Magic's primary starting guards this season, averaging 13 points and 4.3 rebounds. His inexperience could spell doom for the inexperienced Magic.
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Who will win? I pick Detroit in 4, but I do not expect the games to be easy.

Orlando and Detroit are very similar in one respect, no consistency. For Brian Hill's team, thats largely due to injuries this season, but also due to the flucuating performances of some of his team. Orlando started out 1-2 as Ariza was injured to begin the season. Ariza came back, got stronger, and soon Orlando was winning and winning a lot. But Ariza then got injured and missed pretty much all the mid-season. And Orlando struggled a whole lot. Ariza is the guy on Orlando who gets to all the loose balls, guards the opponents best wing player, and is just basically the guy that is the glue holding Orlando's rotations together. Ariza is fully healthy at the moment.

Turkoglu had a horrid season in all. He has had a nagging health issue most of the season. He does not know exactly what is going on, but feelings of nausea and fatigue plagued him most of the season. The result is that he shot horribly, and basically lost a lot of games from his poor play. Of late, Turkoglu seems fine, and is back to knocking down a very high percentage of his shots, especially three pointers. Turkoglu playing healthy is a huge key to success for Orlando, as it allows Orlando to use him at the power forward spot with success. Ariza can end up playing most of the small forward minutes.

Since Darko has that ankle injury, this is just that much more important. After Orlando's first 3 bigs, the talent level falls off to nothing. Bo Outlaw has lots of experience, but nothing left in the tank these days. He can still rebound and thats it. then you got Garrity, who just can't help any NBA team anymore. Don't expect to see him play unless Orlando has very serious foul trouble.

Darko had 20 straight games as a starter for Orlando while Battie was injured. Orlando did not do well. Ariza was injured or returning from injury during this stretch. Darko had to tiptoe around on D, knowing there was not backup really if he got in foul trouble. Turk could not hit a shot. Orlando was forced to play Bo Outlaw and even Garrity some. But despite the losses, Darko was gaining valuable experience. Now Darko is playing less minutes, but those minutes see him way more under control vs. the beginning of the season. You can also expect to see a very aggressive Darko on defense, because he is not starting and does not need to worry that much about fouls.

Howard can be stopped. But you have to double team the guy. When Darko is in the game, manning the other post, this becomes difficult. Darko is looking for a pass from Howard and will dunk the ball on you. On offense, if Darko can't go because of that ankle, it will hurt Orlando quite a bit.

So we see a lot of changes up front for Orlando for the season. Turk ill. Darko in and out of the starting lineup. Ariza injured much of the year. Battie out for a long stretch.

For the guards, just as much turmoil. Nelson has been the most consistent part of the backcourt, but even he has not been able to consistently hold onto his minutes. Nelson is weak on defense, although he can chase small quick guards aound ok. Sometimes he can shoot up a storm, and other times he can shoot his team out of a game. Not much of a play maker, a lot of people really don't think Nelson should be the starting point for Orlando. In this series, look for Nelson to run away from the slower Billups. Nelson will get inside on you, and if you are unlucky, he will can his outside shots. With Webber being no shotblocker, we can expect Nelson will do a lot of inside scoring on us.

The backup for most of the year to Nelson has been Arroyo. Arroyo had quite a shooting slump earlier in the year. That combined with the simple fact that Orlando was losing too much made coach Hill go in a different direction. But with or without Arroyo, Orlando just kept losing. The problem was not Arroyo. Arroyo has had some pretty good games of late and is now back in the rotation, helping Orlando to finish 5 of 6, with their only loss being to Detroit. Arroyo is a true point guard, a pass first point guard if he has his preference-but Orlando's way means Arroyo is called on to be a scorer. On that score, again, he had quite a long slump midseason but otherwise can score on you.

This is Grant Hill's first "full" season back from injury. He shows flashes of good O from the start, but tended to fade in 2nd halves of games. And he did not help his team overall as his D was pretty lame. He was back, but not all back. But lately, just this past few weeks really, Hill looks rejuvenated. He can beat you on his first step and finish at the basket very well, even against a lot of defense. And he makes his shots, in both halves. Look for Hill to be a problem. We may have to replace Webber in the starting unit and put someone in just to address Hill to keep him from scoring on us too much.

Reddick is a rookie who can shoot. He hustles a lot too, but is not ready for major minutes at the moment. Maybe if they started playing him earlier, who knows. But for the moment only expect to see Reddick breifly in each game. Diener is another point guard who got into the rotation a bit mid-season. He can defend and shoot very well, so don't be suprised at all if he pops up in this series.

Bogans has been in and out of the rotation. He is also the guy most likely to start when Hill does not play (which was about 28 games this season.) Bogans is their best defender in the backcourt, and he can score too. We have no idea what to expect Brian Hill will do with Bogans' minutes for this series. He is very ready to play.

Dooling is not really a point guard, but Orlando used him there quite a bit toward the end of the season. Dooling is a clutch shooter. He will also score inside well. While his point guard skills are minimal, he does have some. A pretty good defender, and decent scorer, Dooling could see anywhere to no time or major minutes in this series.

Battie, well, he is ok, experienced at least of defense. Sometimes he can score for you, but the other team has to be ignoring him for this to happen. Not the best, but he provides depth at his position.

As you can see, the backcourt was in just as much turmoil as the frontcourt for Orlando this year. What exactly to expect from them in this series, well, you would have to read Brian Hill's mind for that I guess. But one thing you should note from all this. Orlando has a roster full of players who have played minutes this season. And nearly all of them are healthy and ready to go. Just Darko has that ankle injury, and last I heard, that might not be very serious an injury at all. The Pistons had better come to play, cause Orlando surely will.
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Re: Bring on the Magic :: 2007 Playoffs Round 1

This is fantastic stuff lee. Thanks.
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I will give the Magic game three that's it.
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