Who hurt Grant?

roscoe36 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 05:29 PM

Grant Hill is pointing fingers at the wrong people at Detroit Bad Boys

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I’ll take it one step further — Hill’s follow-up surgeries were performed at Duke University, and though it seems apparent to me that his doctors didn’t get the job done, I’ve never heard Hill fault them, perhaps because he doesn’t want to criticize his alma mater.

Hill has always been one of my favorite players, in part because he’s always been such a class act on and off the court. But seriously, if he’s going to start pointing fingers this late in his career, he might want to at least blame the right people.

roscoe36 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 05:35 PM

Orlando Sentinel - GHill's last appearance in Detroit? by

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These could be Hill's final days as one of the most star-crossed players in NBA history.

Hill is avoiding making a decision on whether he'll play next season, although you'd think he'd lean to play at least another season if he's physically able.

And that's the rub.

Hill told me earlier in the year that he'd like to go out on a healthy note, which never seemed possible until now, and near the top of his game.

And that's exactly where he is now.

TaShawn · #3 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 05:39 PM

I thought I remember hearing that Grant Hill tried to convince Arnie to follow him to Orlando. That doesn't make sense if he was ignoring Arnie's advice.

An ultimately, it seems like he is blaming the Detroit fans for putting undue pressure on him to play hurt (by calling him soft). He should sue us.

mercury · #4 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 05:58 PM

Hellofa player... and a good man... who made a choice for his family.
The man has endured enough... no reason for the media to create controversies.
I'd sign him for the MLE (short term).

**mikhail1973** · #5 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 06:13 PM

A lot about this mess doesn't make sense. Like, Orlando signing Grant to pay him all that money on bum ankle. Giving up Ben Wallace for next to nothing. Did they do their work on investigating the injury? They would have to rely on doctors' opinions in that case. So, why not blame the doctors?

The Low · #6 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 06:25 PM

Hill is creating these controversies himself with his own statements by intimating that either A) the Pistons medical brain trust or B) the fans of Detroit are partially to blame for his injuries. Hill has always reminded me of one of those guys who puts on a really nice face, but always has something slick to say behind closed doors.

Steve Kerr even alluded to the fact that the fans in Detroit were somehow to blame for making Hill feel like they thought he was soft. So, he injured himself trying to prove something to us.

...to hell with that stuff.

If he retires and goes away fine. He's rich, enjoy it. Just go away and don't bother wasting our salary cap with any thoughts of coming back to Detroit.

lurker · #7 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoe36

Orlando Sentinel - GHill's last appearance in Detroit? by

This Orlando Sentinal guy is very creative in his use of the word "near."

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Hill told me earlier in the year that he'd like to go out on a healthy note, which never seemed possible until now, and near the top of his game.

And that's exactly where he is now.

If Hill is near the top of his game then so is Webber.

The writer doesn't seem to understand what Hill was like before the injury. I remember during the 2000 series against Miami seeing him cry on the bench because he was so frustrated he couldn't play. I thought "good, he really cares about winning." At the time, the media were portraying the injury as something he might be able to play through, and when he signed with Orlando, the injury was being described by everyone as no big deal, even though he was on crutches at the time. I'm having a hard time seeing how the missed diagnosis could be all the Pistons' fault, given that the Magic obviously didn't understand what was going on several months later when they gave him the big bucks.

This article in the Orlando Sentinal has more:

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When the Pistons got back to Detroit after Game 2, doctors finally X-rayed Hill and discovered his bruised ankle was actually a broken ankle. Although Pistons doctors said at the time that playing on the already-sore foot probably didn't cause the broken ankle, Hill doesn't buy it. He says there's no telling how long he played on that broken ankle and how much damage he did too himself.

"That's the great unknown," Hill says. "How much worse did I make it by playing on it?"

Hill learned some valuable lessons throughout this unsavory ordeal. He learned that there's a reason they are called "team" doctors. They work for the team, and the team "wants its investment out on the floor at playoff time."

But he also learned he should have been more responsible, too. He's a competitor and he wanted desperately to play in those playoffs seven years ago. Detroit is a tough town and the athletes are expected to be tough, too. Detroit is where the "Bad Boys" played. The fans here have little tolerance for sissy boys.

"There's always pressure to play in professional sports," Hill says. "Ultimately, what I've learned is you have to take ownership of yourself and your body. You can't put trust in somebody else. If I could do it over again, I'd try to find out what was going on with my ankle as opposed to accepting the fact that they [team doctors] say it's fine, then it must be fine."

This sounds like revisionist history. At the time, Hill was the future of the franchise, and just about everybody thought he was going to re-sign. It's hard to believe they would risk his career for a couple of playoff wins.

linwood · #8 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Low

...the fans of Detroit are partially to blame for his injuries.

Steve Kerr even alluded to the fact that the fans in Detroit were somehow to blame for making Hill feel like they thought he was soft. So, he injured himself trying to prove something to us.

Damn. I feel really bad now. One time, during the 2000 season, I was at the Palace and yelled "man up!" at Grant. I didn't know he would take it so personally.

Rip 32 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 09:29 PM

youre right hill has no right to criticize them now its too late in his career in Orlando he plays kinda quiet now hes not as explosive as he used to be at least not complaining about how much his past injuries hurt his game(that much he does sometimes)but i have a lot of respect for hill

jammertime · #10 (**permalink**) 04-24-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

This Orlando Sentinal guy is very creative in his use of the word "near."

I thought the same thing when I read that.

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