You don't know what the defensive schemes were if players didn't follow them. Also, defense wasn't an issue in that series it was offense. Pistons couldn't score.

I think Sheed was wrong and Dumars is stating it by demanding a culture change. He saw that players didn't follow the schemes laid out by the coach. Although Sheed is a good player, he needs to be reigned in. He didn't have a good Cleveland series cause he didn't follow the scheme at crucial times, allowing James a free pass too often..............

I understand the frustrations of following a bad plan but you only compound the problem by fighting it when you need to follow it.

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You should probably go back to the gametapes and take note of all the:

1) Uncontested Layups

2) Uncontested dunks

3) Uncontested midrange jumpers

4) Uncontested longrange jumpers

5) Failure to secure defensive rebounds.

6) Running away from LeBron James

7) Making Daniel Gibson look like the next great thing.

Lets not overlook the amount of points that can be garnered from the defensive end folks.

I saw what you saw.............and put all that on the players.........

Statistically Cleveland was his best series this postseason.

It's funny how we can rewrite history once we key in on somebody.
Until I looked it up I thought he was struggling as well.

It was his best series statistically. He didn't lead the team though during those "crucial and critical times"................
What they needed was his leadership............not his statistics.........

They could have used his leadership. On this I agree.

IMO, they needed Chauncey Billups' leadership.

But "kick in the pants" isn't his style, it was Ben's.
It isn't Flip's style either come to think of it.

We're in trouble.

The guy who didn't show leadership is Saunders. Everyone knows Sheed is a loose cannon. It's his greatest asset and his biggest deficiency.

A good coach, with years and years of NBA experience, and in his second season with this team, should have found a middle ground with Sheed.

And as mentioned, our offense was terrible. That's Flip's domain.

The horsecrap about the defense is nonsense. Sheed wasn't guarding Lebron. He wasn't guarding Boobie Gibson.

Chuck Daly was a master at getting players to buy into his system by empowering them. Flip has shown ZERO inclination, here or in Minny, to be a manager of personalities. A coach has to be a cohesive and supportive voice.

You guys remember at the end of Flip's first season when Dyess, Rip, Tay and Sheed were questioning him?

What do you do? Turnover the whole roster for a guy who continues to prove he is a playoff choker, or do you demand accountability from your coach, and set standards he must meet? It's foolish to think we would have to shed Sheed because he can't get along with Saunders. Like this guy is some Phil Jackson or something.

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Nov 13 LW Milan Lucic had an active night. He scored his first goal in eight games since his Oct. 25 hat trick and also pounded Michael Komisarek in a third-period fight. Lucic cut his hand in a fight with Michael Komisarek. "I'll be fine," he said. "(X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before you can't really tell."