Originally Posted by CloudWalker

I bold struck this because I believe this was huge.

While KGreg and I may differ on the finer points of Flex offense, I feel he does have a point about players being "tabbed" to take shots on trips down the floor. I however, don't blame this on Saunders, but on Billups and the players on the floor who displayed a disconcerting lack of patience on offense.... almost as if they were trying to pad the stats of the guy passing the ball to them.

They even missed open players coming off screens (who should have been about to receive the ball) to force the ball back into Chauncey's hands for a "reset"

This completely undermines the nature of Flips offensive schemes, and it came on the wake of Chauncey's complaints that Webber was stealing assists from him.


I feel that players - either consciously or subconsciously - were trying to force shots after receiving passes from Billups.

It disrupted the offensive flow, and the team wasn't ever the same after that. Even if they at any point tried to get back to where they were, it was obviously all for naught. This team had long since fallen out of a good groove and had become firmly mired in a bad one.

Between Ben and his points, and Chauncey with his assists, I seriously hope next year is free of supposedly unselfish to a T Pistons players complaining about their "stats".

Originally Posted by roscoe36

It was in a Detroit News article sometime back Mad.

Billups was whining that he was out of sorts because the ball wasn't in his hands all the time.

If he could take someone off the dribble, I wouldn't have a problem with his lust for the ball, but we live and die with his passing, the same one dimensional problem that shut us down in the ECF the last two years.