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Originally Posted by lemonpen Isn't starting a tall order for AJ. You sure we wouldn't wanna ease him ...

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Old 07-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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Isn't starting a tall order for AJ. You sure we wouldn't wanna ease him into major minutes, responsibility and not to mention level of comp. Maybe allow him to work up to a starting role by the two-thirds mark of the season.
Right now C-Webb is not a Piston. So who does that leave to start up front.

Dyess won't do it. Besides I would rather have some experience coming off the bench to go with the rookies. Having a second unit of all rookies and JMax is just open to too many NBA learning mistakes for the first 40 + games this year.

What about starting JMax? Sorry folks, but the guy has never shown he can rebound in the NBA. A starting front line of Sheed, JMax and Tay gives us one rebounder and Sheed hasn't exactly cleaned the boards the last year or two.

Start Nazr? No way. The guy earned his spot on the bench last year and let him keep it.

AJ has shown he can get it done. He can rebound, pass, defend the 4 and has a decent shot from 15 and in. Put him with the old guys (LOL) and let him insert a little Viagra into that group.

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Unless we can trade or find a shot-blocking 5, it only makes sense to bring back Webber. I think part of the problem was the conflict between Billups and Webber. At first Webber was successful because the play went through him. Then Chauncey didn't like that and the play then went through him. Webber lost his effectiveness. A simple solution would be to play Webber with the bench so he could feed the young studs and not conflict with Billups. Under this plan Nazr could be told to concentrate on rebounding and shot blocking.
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Good point congo. It would also be nice to see Stuckey finishing off cuts fed by Webber.
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I'd rather go with the youth...........but that means that Chicago will probably pick him up and make it to the finals............
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I would like to see Webber back as a bench player playing 10-15 minutes a game. He should play when Chauncey is on the bench. He creates easy shots for us (especially for Tay and Rip) which is a problem when Billups doesn't play. Someone said before that Chris can help Stuckey and i agree with it. Webber can be a great 'playmaker' of the bench and that's what we should have used him for last year. He is not a great starter but he will be much better as a bench player.

One important thing is the way he played for Pistons. He didn't pull as many jumpers as a 76er. He played near the basket. I liked his play. He missed some easy shots because of his knees but his skills are priceless. When Joe signed him i thought that it's better to have him on our roster and it haven't changed my mind. During the Cavs' series he was one of the players i didn't complain about. This year Amir and Jason should get their minutes. There is a lot of hope but Chris is a proven player. It won't hurt our young players.

I don't want to see him playing for Mavs...
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I would like to see Webber back as a bench player playing 10-15 minutes a game. He should play when Chauncey is on the bench. He creates easy shots for us (especially for Tay and Rip) which is a problem when Billups doesn't play. Someone said before that Chris can help Stuckey and i agree with it. Webber can be a great 'playmaker' of the bench and that's what we should have used him for last year. He is not a great starter but he will be much better as a bench player.

One important thing is the way he played for Pistons. He didn't pull as many jumpers as a 76er. He played near the basket. I liked his play. He missed some easy shots because of his knees but his skills are priceless. When Joe signed him i thought that it's better to have him on our roster and it haven't changed my mind. During the Cavs' series he was one of the players i didn't complain about. This year Amir and Jason should get their minutes. There is a lot of hope but Chris is a proven player. It won't hurt our young players.

I don't want to see him playing for Mavs...
If it comes down to us playing Mohammed or bringing Webber back, then I all for playing Webber. However, I would rather him comeback as a spare center, with no guarantee of any playing time. Lets see if the younger guys, who are capable of getting over on defense, can do the job.

With that said, Dale Davis is the better defender. I am not really worried about the offensive skills of JMAX and Amir. Its their defense I worry about. JMAX for lack of height, and Amir for lack of size. These fears might be ungrounded, you have to let the kids play to find out. But if they can't play D, then Webber will just make the problem worse, as would Mohammed. Dale Davis is the only one of the three who would fit the bill of a defensive center who could step in if needed.
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Unless we can trade or find a shot-blocking 5, it only makes sense to bring back Webber. I think part of the problem was the conflict between Billups and Webber. At first Webber was successful because the play went through him. Then Chauncey didn't like that and the play then went through him. Webber lost his effectiveness. A simple solution would be to play Webber with the bench so he could feed the young studs and not conflict with Billups. Under this plan Nazr could be told to concentrate on rebounding and shot blocking.
Maybe now that CB got his $$$ he'll be OK deferring passing to Web? I wonder if that would make any difference.
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If you thought Chris Webber moved slowly before, just wait. His free-agent summer could drag on before it is decided if he will remain a Piston in his hometown, go elsewhere, or retire -- with each a realistic option.
Webber has had contract talks with teams, so there is interest in a 15th season. If he actually plays on, though, may come down to whether the offers increase, raising the possibility that he does not want to quit but will take that route as a financial decision, despite getting a reported $36 million buyout from the 76ers six months ago.
That January move by Philadelphia to sever ties, after Webber had pushed to either get an increased role or a new address, was the first step in what became his latest new image: Webber, who signed as a free agent, as a rejuvenated and dependable hand in Detroit's impressive push through the second half of the regular season. But then came the playoffs and the unavoidable conclusion that he was 34 years old and leaking energy while averaging 9.9 points and 6.3 rebounds in the three rounds.
That image is an obvious concern for teams that would get him as a piece for a postseason run, not for a great March contribution.
It could lead to the other Webber option of the moment, the one where he calls it a career and then is lured out of a restful retirement for the second half of 2007-08.
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Re: Bring Back Webber?

No, 1000 times over.

I'd rather take the last shot in a big game for the pistons then Webber.

He is cursed by the basketball gods.

he had nothing left last year, even with playing half a season and Arnie Kander.

He will have even less next season.

The only way I would bring him back is in the type of role DD played last year, and I don't think that would be enough burn for Chrissy's ego.
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In an article that ran yesterday, Webber is talking like he's still a Piston.
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When asked if Detroit had a shot at a title next season, Webber added: "Definitely. We have the talent and experience, and leadership in Joe Dumars. We'll definitely be contenders. It's going to be interesting to see [how the East shapes up]. We're going to have to wait and see what happens with [Kevin Garnett] or Shawn [ Marion] or whoever comes over. I know it's going to be better basketball if the talent is dispersed evenly in both conferences."
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