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Originally Posted by 16 Mile As funny as this is, it is clear Amir is only 6'9". I'...

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Old 07-15-2007, 03:48 PM
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As funny as this is, it is clear Amir is only 6'9". I'd could tell that just by watching a fuzzy webcast. Amir is at least 3 or 4 inches shorter than Saimb. So why, why on Earth is McCoskey and Co. trying to say the kid is 6'11"? The only thing that makes sense, is they don't want Amir to perceived as a SF, and have pressure to compete him against Tay. You know what, Tay has been down right lazy the past year and a half, time to get him some competition. And if Amir is only 6'9", is Jmax even 6'6"?
Well, I saw Amir side by side with Sheed in one of the last games of this season, which was not too long ago at all. I was on the floor, first row, midcourt-pretty good vantage point. I do not know exactly how tall Sheed is, but I thought he was 6-11. Which would make Amir about 6-10, based on the fact he looks to be an inch shorter than Sheed.

As far as this "conspiricy," I would not put it past McCoskey to print or pass on something he was told without checking his facts. Somebody wanted us to believe Amir is taller than he actually is. To take the pressure off Flip /and or Dumars to play Amir at small forward sounds as likely a reason as any such misinformation would come out.

It has also been mentioned, I can't remember the source, that Amir is about the quickest guy on our team. At 6-10, and with great quicks and ups, how in the world would anyone conclude he can't play small forward? Now, as I have pointed out repeatedly, JMAX and Amir played as a pair forwards in those four games at the end of the season. So, right in front of us, without ever admitting it, they were using one of either JMAX or Amir to replace some of Tay's minutes. Never announced it. I am sure lots of people missed this simple fact, but they did what they said they would not do, use Amir at small forward. (Unless you want to believe it was JMAX at small forward, which of course begs a different question. Why was Tay exhausted at the end of the season if JMAX could have been giving him some rest?)

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Old 07-15-2007, 04:42 PM
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I don't even know where the 6'11 came from. The media guide I have from the summer league lists him at 6'9- 210 and that is what I thought he was. I often wondered why everyone kept saying he could be the starting center?

I found this from Wikipedia:
Johnson is a power forward who was selected by the Detroit Pistons with the 56th pick of the 2005 NBA Draft. He is listed at 6'9" (2.06m) and 210 lb (95 kg) but has reportedly grown to 6'11" (2.11m)[1] since being drafted.

That footnote indicates it was taken a Piston article written by Keith Langlois, but there is no date on it.

Agree that in the x-mas video, AJ's shoulders look about an inch and half shorter than Sheeds
The Langlois article cited in the footnote is here, and includes this:

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Johnson, who has grown to 6-foot-11 after being 6-9 when drafted by the Pistons with the 56th pick of the 2005 draft, averaged 17.3 points, 7.2 rebounds and 1.5 blocked shots in a 17-game stint with Fayetteville (N.C.) in last season’s D-League stint.
You're right that there's no date in the article, but according to the url (...jobtraining_070108.html) the date is January 8, 2007.
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McCoskey said that Amir was 6 11 1/2 at the beginning of last season. That's all I know.
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The Langlois article cited in the footnote is here, and includes this:


You're right that there's no date in the article, but according to the url (...jobtraining_070108.html) the date is January 8, 2007.

So now it appears that he grew another inch in the 2 1/2 weeks after the X-mas video was made and then shrunk back to 6"10 since then. Even Samb's weight is being questioned if he gained 30 lbs or not?

How about an official weigh in, measurement and body fat analysis on the first day of training camp for everybody.
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you guys are looking too hard for conspiracies that aren't there. you're showing a video where you have no vantage point of where amir and sheed were standing in comparison to each other, and you can't even see from the stomach down. good lord.

if the pistons really wanted to keep his value down, they'd have never published that he had grown 2 inches.
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you guys are looking too hard for conspiracies that aren't there. you're showing a video where you have no vantage point of where amir and sheed were standing in comparison to each other, and you can't even see from the stomach down. good lord.

if the pistons really wanted to keep his value down, they'd have never published that he had grown 2 inches.
It's pretty obvious that Sheed and Amir are standing right next to each other. You're the one that's reaching if you're actually claiming that's hard to deduce.

IMO, the most plausible explanation so far is that Rasheed was wearing shoes and Amir was not.
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It's pretty obvious that Sheed and Amir are standing right next to each other. You're the one that's reaching if you're actually claiming that's hard to deduce.

IMO, the most plausible explanation so far is that Rasheed was wearing shoes and Amir was not.

Or Sheed was wearing his high heels that day
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i 'stand' by (or next to? har) what i said. it's irresponsible and inaccurate to draw conclusions from that video.
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I've changed my mind.

When someone puts their arm around someone else, it's impossible to extrapolate where they are in relation to each other.

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Hog...forget the video. You've been to games recently. You've seen Amir together on the floor with Sheed, Dice, Davis & Tay, at least in pre-game. What's your relative height analysis seeing Amir next to those guys?
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