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I went through some Skyforce photos late last season and found several with Amir standing next to the teams center. ...

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Old 07-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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I went through some Skyforce photos late last season and found several with Amir standing next to the teams center. From those photos it also looked like Amir was closer to 6'9" than to 6'11".

Not sure that it really matters since his skillset dictates that he stay near the paint right now on offense, so the PF role might be his best short and long term option.

What would it hurt to give both Maxiell and Amir an extended look backing up the 3? Unless Joe has something special up his sleeve, we could be looking at trying a bunch of guys there during the regular season including Sammy.
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His height is relatively irrelevant. He can obviously play PF, and if he's smaller, he may be able to SF.

The only thing that keep growing about this guy (in my opinion), is his legend.
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Johnson, a 6-10 post player from Los Angeles, Calif. and the Cardinals' highest-ranked recruit at No. 18 in the nation, signed with Louisville last November, but has had NBA scouts at many of his high school games. A lack of contact throughout the month of March prompted Pitino to remark "Well, I haven't heard too much from Amir Johnson. So, I don't know about that one," Pitino said.


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His height is relatively irrelevant. He can obviously play PF, and if he's smaller, he may be able to SF.

The only thing that keep growing about this guy (in my opinion), is his legend.
Thanks for bursting our bubble with the reality we know as casual internet fans
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Really, does it matter exactly how tall he is? As long as he plays and contributes, and keeps developing we are all going to be happy.
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What would it hurt to give both Maxiell and Amir an extended look backing up the 3? Unless Joe has something special up his sleeve, we could be looking at trying a bunch of guys there during the regular season including Sammy.
I could think of a few reasons why you wouldn't want to play them at the 3. Offensively, neither can spread the floor with their shooting. This deficiency allows opposing teams to double our post guys with impunity and cut off driving lanes without fear of being hurt by kickouts. Nor do either possess the handle required to drive by NBA perimeter defenders. Additionally, playing at the 3 lessens, if not negates, their offensive strengths by taking them away from the paint and the post, where they are actually offensively viable.

Defensively, you wouldn't want them guarding 3s either. That defensive responsibility would bring them away from the basket where they would no longer be able to effectively block shots and rebound. This would hurt Maxiell, who is a decent shot-blocker, and utterly destroy Amir's contributions as both our best rebounder and shot-blocker. Neither would be particularly adept (and I'm being kind here) at stopping dribble penetration. This problem is exacerbated by the rule change that doesn't allow contact on the perimeter. That's why the league has moved away from oversized 3s towards smaller, more skilled swingmen.

This is most likely why Joe drafted Afflalo and Meijia, both of whom appear to be strong perimeter defenders capable of stopping penetration.

That's just of off of the top of my head. I'm sure I could think of more.
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Amir has a fine jumper. And Max has more range than he has been given credit for.
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Amir has a fine jumper. And Max has more range than he has been given credit for.
Remember when Chauncey made a pass to him, in a clutch situation and Max drained the footer from the corner.? Max was so happy, that he had the chance
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Amir has a fine jumper. And Max has more range than he has been given credit for.
I would give Maxiell credit for a respectable shot out to twenty feet. His mama wouldn't give him more credit than that. Can he get a 20 footer off against NBA defenders? We'll see, but he hasn't yet. Even if he can bring that element to his game, it still doesn't change the fact that he can't drive on most small forwards, and that he would be pulled from the post, where he has shown himself to be a decent offensive player.

Amir Johnson DOES NOT have a fine jumper. On two occasions, he has shown the ability to hit a completely wide open three. As for the "jumper" part, it looked like more of a set shot to me. Furthermore, his release is as low and slow as they come, not what I would call "fine".
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Really, does it matter exactly how tall he is? As long as he plays and contributes, and keeps developing we are all going to be happy.
Isn't this discussion another variation of the age old question:

"Does size matter"?

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