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Originally Posted by buddahfan Geez how could I have forgotten about him? Answer: Very easily....

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Old 08-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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Geez how could I have forgotten about him?

Answer: Very easily.

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Ah - No.

He did not cut it last year so why should anyone think he will this year?
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The signing of Lloyd Vaught and Eric Leckner were a lot worse than the signing of Nazr. Nazr as limited as he is can still do some things fairly well. When we got Vaught and Leckner they were the shell of what they used to be and were more worthless than Nazr.

Like what? Please do name what Mohammed can do well. I am all ears. And oh by the way, padding his rebound stats by never getting back on defense-that I will not count as a plus for him.
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Ah - No.

He did not cut it last year so why should anyone think he will this year?
He was there until Webber came. If Chris didn't get signed, Nazr would've been right there getting his 20 minutes.
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Like what? Please do name what Mohammed can do well. I am all ears. And oh by the way, padding his rebound stats by never getting back on defense-that I will not count as a plus for him.
I did not say "well". I said "fairly well" which is not as good as well.

He has a fairly decent shooting touch (career FG% 48%) for a backup center and he can rebound fairly well. I don't think getting defensive rebounds has anything to do with never getting back on defense, in fact just the opposite.

Defensive Rebounds
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Dyess career average per 40 minutes = 7.1
Mohammed career average per 40 minutes = 7.4

As a starting center, I agree is pretty bad, but as a backup center he has certain assets that make him serviceable when you don't have a better player like Dyess.

I would say Mohammed is a horrible first string center, a not quite passable second string center and a passable 3rd string center. He is however, not worth $5 plus million a year, more like $1.5 to $2.0 million a year.

Antonio McDyess Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com

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I did not say "well". I said "fairly well" which is not as good as well.

He has a fairly decent shooting touch (career FG% 48%) for a backup center and he can rebound fairly well. I don't think getting defensive rebounds has anything to do with never getting back on defense, in fact just the opposite.

Defensive Rebounds
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Dyess career average per 40 minutes = 7.1
Mohammed career average per 40 minutes = 7.4

As a starting center, I agree is pretty bad, but as a backup center he has certain assets that make him serviceable when you don't have a better player like Dyess.

I would say Mohammed is a horrible first string center, a not quite passable second string center and a passable 3rd string center. He is however, not worth $5 plus million a year, more like $1.5 to $2.0 million a year.

Antonio McDyess Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com

Nazr Mohammed Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com

Not to be unpolite. I am just trying to have a conversation. But surely you understand its offensive rebounds you get by not getting back on defense.

On the defensive end, you pad your rebounding stats by never, ever going over to help, but rather just go for the rebound everytime. Mohammed only gets good rebounding stats because he ignores all other parts of the game. I will give you that he can hit a short outside shot ok. But geez, not that good. Not good enough to excuse him from getting exactly zero points posting up against a center for a whole season.

Now, the rest of this post right here is right for the most part. Not a starting center. A rather poor 2nd string center. Worth 2 million? Questionable in my opinion.
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The signing of Lloyd Vaught and Eric Leckner were a lot worse than the signing of Nazr. Nazr as limited as he is can still do some things fairly well. When we got Vaught and Leckner they were the shell of what they used to be and were more worthless than Nazr.
An F is an F whether you get 50% or 35%...you still fail.
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Not to be unpolite. I am just trying to have a conversation. But surely you understand its offensive rebounds you get by not getting back on defense.

On the defensive end, you pad your rebounding stats by never, ever going over to help, but rather just go for the rebound everytime. Mohammed only gets good rebounding stats because he ignores all other parts of the game. I will give you that he can hit a short outside shot ok. But geez, not that good. Not good enough to excuse him from getting exactly zero points posting up against a center for a whole season.

Now, the rest of this post right here is right for the most part. Not a starting center. A rather poor 2nd string center. Worth 2 million? Questionable in my opinion.
In my mind he's a solid backup. Is he worth 2 mil? Absolutely. Is he worth 5? I highly doubt that.
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Re: Are You Comfortable With Nazr Mohammed As Our Starting Center?

Play Nazr about 25 minutes a game and work in others, until somebody steps up to take the minutes. If not...........play small ball...........
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Re: Are You Comfortable With Nazr Mohammed As Our Starting Center?

There's really lots of garbage out there. That's why I thought that Nazr, while he's no Ben or Shaq or even Ilgauskas, is still serviceable.
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