I ain't kidding.

He is the swing guy. 20 years old or not.

If he does great, and by great I mean he averages a double double!!

He is definitely capable of it given 30 + minutes a game.

We do not have anyone else on this team capable of averaging a double double given any amount of minutes a game.

You don't think he is capable of averaging a double double given the minutes. Fair enough. Let us wait and see.

If you don't think by him averaging a double double is going to make us a far better team than if he can't play defense and sits on the bench and we give those minutes to JMax and Nazr along with more minutes to Sheed you are mistaken.

Remember, I did not say that couldn't win without him I just said that it would be struggle to get to the finals if he doesn't get the minutes. That doesn't mean I don't think that we can't win if he doesn't get the minutes, but just that if he earns the minutes and gets them then we coast into the Finals and have a good chance to win it all.

I think dumars made the best deal he felt comfy making that will would not handcuff the the team for years. I think I remember him saying he would never make a deal that would ruin the abilty of the team to be competitive in the years to come and a bad ben deal would do just that. he is an all or nothing type player and his legs arn't getting any younger. I wanted him back but I felt any deal at more then about 8 million a year would end up being a contract that would kill us in the future. I still think chicago overpayed and they will pay for it.

As stated Nazi is a glue type player, one who fills a hole and won't win you any games but he won't lose you tons of games ever. Everybody says we can do better but very few name names, who is out there last summer we could have gotten for his money that you want? that would have been better for us? I can't name them...

Sorry.

I don't think he is a Nazi.

I think that he is a Muslim.

I agree with alot of what you have to say, I don't think he should play 30 mins a game just for the fact I don't want him to hit the rookie wall to hard, come play off time i want him getting tons of mins... and I think that nazr should get lot of early season mins to keep the kid fresh but as the season goes on he should get more and more mins and the "important" mins for sure.

I am scared though of the coach understanding how to work him into the role on this team. he's going to either not play him enough, or overplay him and burn him out.

Yeah...you're right. He was pretty much the only halfway decent big man left when Ben left so we were stuck with him.

I agree. I am just trying to stay positive. It helps me get excited about the new season. If I am negative now about our possibilities, why get excited about the new year?

Yes, I may be pumping him a lot. But, why not?

1. He is talented
2. He is young
3. Our players and coaches say he has tremendous potential
4. And he ours, i.e., a Detroit Piston, not a Seattle whatever. Seattle whatever, has plenty of fans to pump their players, they don't need my help.

Could we have beaten the Bulls with Nazz?
This whole thread is making me itch. I think he's right for the half court game we play. Clean up the mess under the hoop and give the ball back to the guards so they can shoot again.

As we sit now, this is the way it's going to play.

You definitely have some sort of nasty fixation. Unfortunately, he could go away and you still have a team that will have a very difficult time making it out of the East playoffs. Remember, he was a non-issue last year and again will provide a valuable backup which might follow the same course.

Do you honestly think AJ is going to get 30+ MPG?

I am not hating on him, I love the guy just like everyone else, however, 30 MPG, please.

There may be some games when he plays 30 Min, but to avg that is not going to happen IMO.

I would love to see him play that amount of time; 20 MPG seems more like it, and that may come late after he produces early in the season.