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Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

I know this is a bit cliche, but almost every cliche exists for a reason. I'm too young to know Joe's ball style. Looking over his stats, Joe rarely took three-pointers. Rodney's defense will never be as good as Joe's (most likely), but what aspects of his game are Joe-like? Is JoeD a good comparison? All you seasoned Piston fans, please give me some insight.
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Re: Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

its too hard to tell at this point but it seems like both can pass and play point in a half court set. Joe D had a beautiful between the legs pull up jumper. I think Wade or Foye still holds until we see otherwise.
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Re: Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

Strength, self-confidence.

Stuckey seems to have a bit more swagger than Joe, who was a pretty quiet guy early in his career.

My memories of Joe are less of a player who scored off the dribble, but a guy who had an excellent jumpshot.
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Re: Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

Ability to get to the free throw line. Could play some point, but never really an assist guy. Never the best athlete on the court, but quick enough and strong enough to create space for a mid range jumper. Joe became a dangerous 3 point shooter by the end of his career. Hard worker on both ends of the court. I believe Stuckey is a bit bigger than Joe.
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Re: Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

I think that Pistons are seeing Chauncey in Stuckey. The guy who's a combo guard but could develop into a very good point guard over time.
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Re: Rodney Stuckey = Joe Dumars v2?

A quite intensity (JD) who said to himself: I'm different, but just as good (counterpoint Isiah). Quick awareness of his surroundings, but slower off the mark which projected him a always under control (counterpoint Isiah).

RS has more outward self-confidence and knows (or should) that he needs to counterpoint the methodological oversight ability of CB. He will slash, while CB holds back. I am not too thrilled about the technical mechanics of his jump shot and he will have to prove to the league he can bury the 3 pt. shot at will. He will open up more things (like Isiah), and he will also make more mistakes than CB.

I don't see a very close comparison between JD and RS. Time will tell.
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I don't see that comparison at all, except that both of them can hit their free throws.

Joe D. was primarily an outside shooter who played second fiddle, albeit a great second fiddle, to Zeke for a good deal of Joe's career.

Once Hot Rod gets his NBA legs he won't play second fiddle to anyone and his real strength is his ability to get the hoop and convert.

Joe D. averaged only 4 free throws a game for his career.

I think Hot Rod will average over 4 free throws just in the fourth quarter, once he gets his NBA legs.

I think Hot Rod's game is a lot more like D. Wade's than it is to Joe D's

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I don't see that comparison at all, except that both of them can hit their free throws.

Joe D. was primarily an outside shooter who played second fiddle, albeit a great second fiddle, to Zeke for a good deal of Joe's career.

Once Hot Rod gets his NBA legs he won't play second fiddle to anyone and his real strength is his ability to get the hoop and convert.

Joe D. averaged only 4 free throws a game for his career.

I think Hot Rod will average over 4 free throws just in the fourth quarter, once he gets his NBA legs.

I think Hot Rod's game is a lot more like D. Wade's than it is to Joe D's

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Lots of truth in your post. What I would change is this: Joe did score inside. I mean, not like at the basket, but close in. He was a master at using his body to create space for closer in shots. It was all experience and savvy pretty much, as Joe Dumars did not have great physical gifts.

Stuckey has the physical gifts, so right there, there is a huge difference between the two players. Yet Stuckey will play D, like Joe did, and Stuckey is strong, like Joe was.

I will end this post with one point. What Stuckey can do vs. what he will do might be two very different things. It remains to be seen if Flip Saunders will actually play the guy.
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Lots of truth in your post. What I would change is this: Joe did score inside. I mean, not like at the basket, but close in. He was a master at using his body to create space for closer in shots. It was all experience and savvy pretty much, as Joe Dumars did not have great physical gifts.

Stuckey has the physical gifts, so right there, there is a huge difference between the two players. Yet Stuckey will play D, like Joe did, and Stuckey is strong, like Joe was.

I will end this post with one point. What Stuckey can do vs. what he will do might be two very different things. It remains to be seen if Flip Saunders will actually play the guy.
Good point about Joe D. ability to get inside closer to the basket. He was a very good ball handler and even played some PG for us.

Hot Rod's career might be slowed down by Flip but it won't be almost derailed like Brown did to Darko.

If Hot Rod plays solid defense Flip will give him the minutes just like JMax and AJ will get minutes if they play solid defense.

A lot of people over look the importance of having to play solid defense. Yes on a lousy teams a potential star will get minutes whether they can play defense or not, especially if they can score. But on teams that are consistently at the top of their conference if you can't play defense you aren't going to get serious minutes

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