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Originally Posted by Warthog sam smith is out of his mind. gasol for thomas and nocioni is so lopsided it'...

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sam smith is out of his mind. gasol for thomas and nocioni is so lopsided it's not even funny. he basically wants a premier player in this league for nothing.
I don't know, Thomas and Nocioni aren't exactly chopped liver. Both of those guys play hard bball. Also, they give you help at 2 different positions.

To me, it looks like one of those rare trades that is a win-win.

I don't fear it, because I think the loss of depth and energy would hurt the Bulls against us.
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Kidd wants to play with James in Cleveland - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

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Two sources said Kidd has been a constant text messaging partner with LeBron James since playing with him this summer on Team USA and that the Cavaliers are his preferred destination.
"They've been communicating about the (trade) options that could get them together in Cleveland," one Eastern Conference official said.
If this ever happens, let it be in the 08-09 season
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If this ever happens, let it be in the 08-09 season
Kidd will be 35 before the season ends. Him going to Cleveland next year is non-factor.

Lebron is a point forward. He operates a lot better when he has the ball in his hands then when he plays with an old point guard who needs to control the ball to be effective, because he can't shoot worth sheet.



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didn't see this posted anywhere else on the forum, but it was kind of interesting. especially striking to me was that in this "predictor" Boston, Orlando, and Detroit are given better odds of winning the title than any team in the Western Conference. Perhaps some of the more statistically minded forumites can debunk this (or not).

ESPN - John Hollinger's Playoff Odds
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The odds of "any team from the West" winning should be more than 28.7%, which is what that prediction says.

In his explanation section, he explains why this is flawed. It is so early in the season, that each team has not played enough other teams for the model to have enough information. Not enough regression can be done here with the data set.

He basically says that if the results so far this year are truly representative, then these would be odds. Some teams are hot, some are coasting, some have injuries, etc. etc.
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didn't see this posted anywhere else on the forum, but it was kind of interesting. especially striking to me was that in this "predictor" Boston, Orlando, and Detroit are given better odds of winning the title than any team in the Western Conference. Perhaps some of the more statistically minded forumites can debunk this (or not).

ESPN - John Hollinger's Playoff Odds
I wonder if this takes into account the difficulty of the schedule to date. For example Orlando and us have played on the West Coast. Boston hasn't played west of the the Hudson River. (LOL)

How about adjusting the odds for difficulty of opponents modified by whether the game was home or away.

I don't think that his odds do that.

For example Boston is still winless on the road against winning teams

whereas we are 3 - 1 on the road against teams with winning records




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I wonder if this takes into account the difficulty of the schedule to date. For example Orlando and us have played on the West Coast. Boston hasn't played west of the the Hudson River. (LOL)

How about adjusting the odds for difficulty of opponents modified by whether the game was home or away.

I don't think that his odds do that.

For example Boston is still winless on the road against winning teams

whereas we are 3 - 1 on the road against teams with winning records




I'm pretty sure they do take those things into account.

That is why he predicts that the odds of Boston going 72-10 or better is 1%.
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That Hollinger playoff odds page says that they're based on his power rankings. If you click through the links for his power rankings, he explains how those are calculated as well, and they do take strength of schedule into account.
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A lot of negative things were said about the Detroit Pistons before the season.

They're old. They're slowing down. They lost whatever magic enabled them to become regulars in the Eastern Conference finals.

Their story of teamwork and playing "the right way" sounded good, but maybe it was time to just gut the team, skeptics suggested. After all, how much further could the Pistons really expect to go?
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