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Old 10-23-2007, 06:45 PM
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:46 PM
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This isn't very encouraging.

http://http://www.twincities.com/tim...nclick_check=1


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Pioneer Press: Fans often ask why McHale remains in charge, given the recent run of poor seasons. Can you explain your loyalty to him? It's something that many people don't understand.
Glen Taylor: I've always been kind of loyal to pretty much everybody. I don't think I have any special loyalty to Kevin that I haven't shown to other people I've worked with. If it was really obvious to me that I knew somebody else could come in and do the job really a lot better than Kevin, I'm not afraid to make that switch. I just look around the league, and I'm not sure that I see so many guys that are really very good at what Kevin does. I think there are some guys that laid out some very good business plans and followed them through, and I think we did for quite a while, too.
Also, some of the things that Kevin gets criticized for, I know it was probably much more complicated between him and (former coach) Flip (Saunders), the relationship and how decisions were being made. I probably would say, just as I like Flip and he's a good friend of mine and he gets a lot of the credit, I think a lot of these things people are saying Kevin did, I would tell you probably Flip did
them, and Kevin gets criticized for them. Kevin doesn't say much about things like that.
To me, I know Kevin has taken on a lot of criticism that, if Kevin had his way, he probably wouldn't have done things a certain way. But he did it because Flip was here, and Flip was his coach, and he went with him
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PP: Can you clarify what you're talking about?
GT: Well, some things I won't clarify, but I would say the Chauncey (Billups) thing (in 2002, when Billups left Minnesota as a free agent). Kevin came to me and asked me for the money. He wanted to keep Chauncey, and I OK'd it. And Flip didn't think Chauncey was going to make it. So Kevin said we're crazy to spend this kind of money on a guy if the coach is saying that Chauncey isn't going to make it.
Chauncey really wanted to stay. Chauncey came to us and was like, I really like it here. You guys have really renewed my life. I think this is really a good team. We said, listen, if another team will pay you, you better take it, because if you come here, you may be the backup (point) guard. You probably will be. As it would have worked out, he would have been the starting guard.
Rasho (Nesterovic, former Wolves center who left via free agency in 2003) basically came and said he wouldn't play for Flip. He agreed to the money. He agreed to everything. We had him all done. We didn't want to go public with that at the time.
I'm just saying, a lot of the guys that left here, K.G. (Kevin Garnett) kind of points out that it was Kevin. I say, K.G., you even know better. You were here on the gosh-darn team. K.G. says, well, I really liked it when Flip was here; when we got rid of Flip, that's what made it bad for me. I says, well, K.G., where were you when I asked you, do you want Flip? You didn't want Flip. He says (he wanted him) now.
We knew that (Sam) Cassell and (Latrell) Sprewell had given up on Flip. That was a problem. But I was willing to deal with that issue. As a matter of fact, I told Flip to sit them on the bench and don't even play them, if that's a problem. And he didn't do it.
Then K.G. came along and he says, well, Flip doesn't have it anymore. That really puts McHale on the spot. He says, well, now if the star guy says the coach doesn't have it and we can't make it, it's kind of like, did Kevin (McHale) get rid of Flip, or did K.G. say none of us on the team trust Flip anymore? I will tell you this: Flip came to me earlier and asked to resign, said he'd resign. And McHale talked him into staying on.
I know when Flip did go, I called up Flip and said, OK, you're out, and he says yeah. I told Flip, I'd like to maybe keep you in the organization in another spot. He said OK, I'll do that. I know that two weeks later, he changed it all around, that he got fired and nobody talked to him. I know it didn't go down that way, and I know (McHale) got blamed for that. That's not to say Kevin hasn't done some things wrong that I got kind of ticked at him for. But they're kind of other things, some of the trades, some of this type of stuff that he probably should have looked at more, checked into the character of guys more, done more work on them. So, then I go back and say, well, is it because I didn't give him enough support? I don't always just shoot a guy down like that. Maybe I didn't give him enough help.

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I had a problem with the link not working in both IE7 and Mozilla Firefox.

IE gave me an error message saying that the site was less secure than my IE security settings. I have not gotten there error message before nor do I have I had problems connecting to websites with my Firefox other than an occasional time out message, which this one was not.

I don't know what the link is but you may want to make sure that it is a secure site by checking all of your internet security settings including your firewall to make sure that they are set at levels to protect you against possible malicious attacks.

You can never be too safe when surfing the net.


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It's the wrong link

http://www.twincities.com/timberwolv...nclick_check=1

This should (hopefully!) work. It's the Minn Pioneer Press. You have to register to read the article.
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Speaking of the T-Wolves, they have bought out the contract of Jawan Howard leaving the remaining Fab Fivers >Howard, Rose and Webber all on the outside this season as FA's looking for a team and that elusive championship that none were able to get in the NCAA or NBA..

Report: Timberwolves to buy out F Howard's contract - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
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It's the wrong link

http://www.twincities.com/timberwolv...nclick_check=1

This should (hopefully!) work. It's the Minn Pioneer Press. You have to register to read the article.
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Krista Jahnke's perspective on this BS. 3 years after the fact and T-Wolves own Glen "KG get out of MN" Taylor is still acting like a a five year old regarding Saunders.

This guy Taylor definitely has a hole in his screen door, to say nothing of his brain.

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It has been nearly three years since the Minnesota Timberwolves fired Pistons coach Flip Saunders, and, amazingly, the verbal jabs haven't stopped coming from T'Wolves owner Glen Taylor.

Responding to a question about his loyalty to general manager Kevin McHale, Taylor shifted the focus to Saunders. In the Q&A, Taylor said Saunders should get the blame for missteps usually credited to McHale.

All he (Saunders) would say of Cassell, Garnett and Sprewell was, "Well, talk to those guys. Ask those guys." Saunders has maintained good relationships, friendships even, with Cassell, Garnett and Sprewell.

And the reason Billups decided to leave Minnesota as a free agent in 2002 was clear-cut -- the T'Wolves had too much money tied up in Terrell Brandon to promise Billups anything but a role off the bench. Billups thought he could find a starting job somewhere else, and he did in Detroit.

Billups said he doubted Saunders made the comment about him "not making it," but he also wouldn't have been shocked if he had.


"Whatever," Billups said. "If that was the case, he wasn't the only one to think I wasn't going to make it. Everybody else thought I wasn't going to make it either."


When first told about the story, Billups said, "Why is this such a big deal right now?"
One thing I about which I have been very lucky in my life is that I haven't had ex wives or ex girlfriends or ex bosses that would go out their way years after we went our own ways to act like 5 year olds and blame all their problems on me that happened years after we went our own ways.

Taylor - Get a life.


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AUBURN HILLS -- Your franchise is a mess. Your team has little to no chance of being competitive this season. Your general manager is being shredded in the media. What do you do?

Well, if you are Minnesota Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, you blame it all on Flip Saunders, the guy he fired three years ago, just months after Saunders led the Timberwolves to the Western Conference finals.

Talk about revisionist history -- this is a classic.

In a rambling and bizarre interview with the St. Paul Pioneer Press, Taylor said, "I probably would say, just as I like Flip and he's a good friend of mine and he gets a lot of the credit, I think a lot of these things people are saying Kevin (McHale, the general manager) did, I would tell you probably Flip did them and Kevin got criticized for them."

KG says, 'Well, I really liked it when Flip was here; when we got rid of Flip, that's what made it bad for me
I know who the source is for the above, but this time he is right on.

Owner blames Pistons' Saunders for Timberwolves' woes


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FOX Sports on MSN - NBA - Pistons are pick to emerge with title

pistons picked to win it all
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Music to our ears! The only bad part was:

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Granted, they took a blow this past week when impressive rookie guard Rodney Stuckey went down for six weeks with an ankle sprain, but he'll be back...
Ankle sprain, hand broken in 3 places, same difference.
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