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They also don't get the fine line between good and great, there way over thinking how good they are.... ...

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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

They also don't get the fine line between good and great, there way over thinking how good they are.... One article read said they had a front line of 3 players that was comparable to having shaq and two dirks.... I want to know what koolaid there drinking... its some pretty good stuff i am guessing.... lol

Evens couldn't stay on this team as a backup? and he starts for them.... think that right there shows how far they have to go

I honestly think Stuckey probably could be fighting for a starting job on half the teams in the league next fall.... I like were we are, with him and max's rolls firm going into next fall AJ and AA can make there mark next year.... and our window doesn't close we just change the curtains
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They also don't get the fine line between good and great, there way over thinking how good they are.... One article read said they had a front line of 3 players that was comparable to having shaq and two dirks.... I want to know what koolaid there drinking... its some pretty good stuff i am guessing.... lol
I guess one similarity they have with Shaq and Dirk is that they'll all be watching the remainder of the playoffs on the couch...
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

Stuck needs to vastly improve his AOTG numbers in order to compensate for drafting the "Serbian Gangsta".
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I guess one similarity they have with Shaq and Dirk is that they'll all be watching the remainder of the playoffs on the couch...
lol.... so true
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

I can't give Stuckey any credit for making up for the Dorko pick until we win something other than a division championship and 10 games games in the playoffs.

That pick was 5 years ago and we have won one ring since then. As most have said, a pick of Wade, Melo or Bosh could have translated into 1 or 2 more rings depending on injury factors etc.

We could have still won with the starting core and one of those rooks who were all more NBA ready than Darko and each would have been the consistent 6th or 7th productive player off the bench that we didn't get from Delfino, Mo Evans, Tony Delks, Arvis, or even Dice..
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

It's not a given that we would have even won a single championship if we had picked Melo, Wade, or Bosh. Different dynamics. Maybe we wouldn't have acquired Sheed. Etc.

Multiple is doubtful.

You saw how LB handled the youth in the Olympics.

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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

Funny the expectation from everyone on this board at the beginning of each season since the "ship" is that we should have won each of the last 3 years with the so called best starting four or five in basketball no matter who was on the bench.

However it was the heavy reliance on the starters by both the coach and GM and the lack of confidence with the bench that failed us as we could never get back to the Corliss/Memo/MJames/Hunter bench combo that complimented the starters in 2004.

Like any other teams fans the disappointment was there, but we as a collective still thought we were better than the team we lost to and the eventual winner.

With Melo, Bosh and Wade all starters now, you have to assume that with their skills, they would have been better than anybody we had coming off the bench the past three years. They each had to start on the teams that drafted because they were no good....but I am sure that their egos would have been checked in the locker room and they would have still progressed to where they are now coming off the bench those first couple of years.
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

I'm not sure that we were better than the teams that beat us or not. It's not like we had any major injuries or anything. If those teams were worse than us, they at least matched up well against us.

I think it is fair to say that we were probably equally matched and didn't prevail. It is possible to assign blame, but it's not like those other teams brought their A+ games either. B. Gibson played out of his mind last year, but Lebron had his way with us. No excuse for that.

If we had Wade/Mello/ or Bosh instead of Darko, I will admit that we should have been good enough to win it all more than 1 time. It still would have taken some maneuvering by the coaching staff to keep everyone happy. And we would have still needed to land Sheed. However, it could also be argued that by playing and developing Darko, we would have had enough bigs to bring home that 2nd title when LB made the infamous decision to put Tay on Duncan. It wouldn't have taken much. And if there was one thing Darko was good at, it was being 7 feet tall with reach.

Alternative history is a really pointless exercise though. Let's just be glad that we have good young players and some of them have developed and gained trust in the coach.
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

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ESPN - Best and worst of the first two rounds of the playoffs - NBA


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Rookie of the Playoffs: Rodney Stuckey

OK, they can't get a do-over on drafting Darko Milicic, but at least the Pistons got something out of him. That's more than Memphis can say … or Orlando. In fact, the Magic's trade of a No. 1 pick and Kelvin Cato's expiring contract for Milicic and Carlos Arroyo two years ago might have cost them the series. Detroit used the pick to take Stuckey in the draft last June, and he held down the fort while Chauncey Billups sat out Games 4 and 5. Detroit won both games to move on to the conference finals, and Stuckey played well enough for his team to win. The highlight was a 15-point, six-assist, two-steal outing in the clincher, as the 6-5 guard showed he can be an effective scoring point because of his ability to beat smaller players off the dribble and finish at the rim.
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Re: Has Stuckey made up for the Darko pick?

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With Melo, Bosh and Wade all starters now, you have to assume that with their skills, they would have been better than anybody we had coming off the bench the past three years. They each had to start on the teams that drafted because they were no good....but I am sure that their egos would have been checked in the locker room and they would have still progressed to where they are now coming off the bench those first couple of years.
I don't think Melo would have.
I think L.B. and Melo would have been like oil & water.
Too bigof an ego!
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