Originally Posted by lpgrl26

i disagree. It's hard to belive that Doc Rivers can outcoached anybody, but he outcoached Flip. He wasn't afraid to throw his bench guys in there. He didn't hesitate to pull someone who was ineffective. He varied his subs, and most importantly his guys had confidence in him, and he was able to keep them motivated and ready. He emphasized rebounding, and they rebounded. It looks like we had the same problem this season with players privately questioning the coach's moves. And LH saying that they need a strong coach is telling.

Also this is a little OT and not directed at anybody, but i'm getting really tired of ppl talking about how our defense was so great under Flip and referencing #'s like Points allowed. Anyone with two eyes could see that our defense was awful a majority of the time, easy layup, drunks, open shots galore. And we couldn't rebound which is a major part of defense. Even the players will tell you it sucked.

Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Here's how I see it: if they name Curry a coach than it just means that they don't see Laimbs in that position. Nothing wrong with Curry, but I'd love to see Laimbeer get on their behinds.

Originally Posted by roscoe36

Replacing a coach, not firing a coach earlier than necessary.

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

I think it was necessary now. The entire planet knows that either Rasheed or Flip has to go for things to work out. If Joe (even in theory) commits to Flip he hurts his position in trade talks and simultaneously brings down Rasheeds value.

Now that Flip is gone, Joe can say wholeheartedly that he is 100% willing to retain Rasheeds rights next year. That alone was reason enough to walk Flip out the door IMO.

Originally Posted by Lee356

I will not disagree with you here. Although Joe Dumars is one of my heroes, I will not give him a free pass on responsibility for what happened three straight years. If Joe was interested in any respect from me, or many others, he would have fired Flip this year. Yes, that would have taken guts. Why didn't he. He instead let Flip lose yet another easily winnable series. That is called closing the barn door after the cows have all ran off. Too late.

I am sure that yet again, Joe will claim next year will be different. Sure Joe, talk all you want. Talk is cheap. If Mike Curry is hired as coach, and proceeds to repeat some of the nonsense Flip Saunders just did, you better fire him. Not at the end of the season, when it is too late, but as soon as you see non-sense occurring.

Mike Curry has zero experience coaching pretty much, despite his thinking that he does have experience. Older vets helping on the coaching is a far cry from actually having any responsibility as a coach. His pay should be minimal, with no guarantee past the first year, and a clear understanding that he won't make the whole season without performance in all areas. Like winning, and developing the team. Depth. Youth. Key skills.

By the way, I say hire Porter. On the same terms - though at higher pay of course. Don't break up the team. See what Porter can do.

Originally Posted by NYPistonFan729

I do not want curry because it will be like rebuilding...he has never been a head coach before. i do not know why everyone is so high on him, maybe i am wrong. the team for the past 2 seasons have two many so called coaches. i want lindsay gone even though i know it will not happen because of his friendship with joe. i think curry's presense and lindsay's presense undermined flip. that is why i feel flip should have been let go last year. no way he was going to be successful for this team; i feel some of the players blame him for ben wanting to leave even though i feel it was more money offered by bulls. when you saw lindsay standing up with flip during the games, you just sense that flip did not control this team.

Originally Posted by round

in no way comparing pat riley to curry, but pat riley had no experience save the press box when given the keys to the lakers..... and we all know how that worked out...

you just don't know when/if a guy is ready till you give him the shot

Originally Posted by TaShawn

But you're pretty sure a guy with experience is ready. So do you flip a coin or go with the sure thing?

If we were the Memphis Grizzlies, I'd say you try to get lucky for cheap. If you are a 6 straight ECF team, then I'd say that you have to be really careful to not waste another year with a weak leader.

Originally Posted by TaShawn

But you're pretty sure a guy with experience is ready. So do you flip a coin or go with the sure thing?

If we were the Memphis Grizzlies, I'd say you try to get lucky for cheap. If you are a 6 straight ECF team, then I'd say that you have to be really careful to not waste another year with a weak leader.