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Old 07-01-2008, 04:23 PM
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You were too hard on yourself. Go easy on yourself like I do. Life is too short to worry about ankle biters.
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I think he's better than that. He played a significant role on those teams both when those other guys were on the floor and when they were on the bench - shot 50% from three in the finals, and 45% overall from three in the playoffs. And unlike Hayes, Evans, et al who came before, he's a hard nosed rebounder and defender.

As much as I dislike the extracurricular cheap shots he brings to the game (I do feel dirty promoting him), he also brings a toughness this team lacks. Is he worth the $5.5 or $6.0 million for four years it would take to get him? It's a gamble no doubt. But, a strong presence off the bench, particularly at the 3 is to me the most obvious flaw in this team, and he does fill that hole.

And, not sure I see many other realistic options out there (Childress?), who addresses the Pistons' needs.
I agree. He's also clutch as hell. I would do it. He can guard Pierce/LBJ alot better than Tay can. I don't think he would be just a "back-up" either; a serious 6th man candidate. I love Posey. He's a jacka . . . , but we need some toughness on this team. He was my 1st choice as a realistic FA.

I heard the Lakers are going to go hard at him. I think the Spurs might looks as well. It's going to be interesting where he ends up anf for how much if the Celts are out.

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Not to mention, i think it would be a much bigger blow to the Celtics than people think. Imagine this team, PT for our actual bench (AA,Amir,Stuck,Max), emphasis on defense, rebounding, PP, a hard ass coach, and James Posey. Does BOS get by that team?

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I heard the Lakers are going to go hard at him. I think the Spurs might looks as well.
If the Spurs can prop Bowen up, him and Posey on the floor at the same time would put a serious wrench in a lot of offenses.


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Not to mention, i think it would be a much bigger blow to the Celtics than people think.
The Celtics have some work to do. They have nine guys under contract (plus the four guys they drafted). Rondo and Allen start, but the ex-rookie Greg Pruitt better be good since he's the only other guard on the roster other than rooks. Ainge did some fine work last year, but putting together a team this year will be his real test as a GM.
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Is Posey TWICE as good as Bonzi Wells?
You'd have to pay him twice as much.
Bonzi is a cancer. What kind of uplifting things has he EVER done to help his team succeed? I can't think of any. No team he's been on has ever done a thing. Posey? Not my cup of tea but definitely fills some of the needs our team has. I find it amusing that it's open discussion when it comes to adding Artest (publick enemy #2 in Detroit, #1 if it weren't for Kwame Kilpatrick) but Posey gets hated on. You can't really compare the two because they play different roles but look at our needs and look at what Posey would bring and judge the move solely on the facts. As much as I HATE the Celtics, Posey was a good teammate and he was willing to WORK for the good of the team. Does anyone on our current roster (minus Dyess) remember what WORK means?
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Source: Celtics make offers to Posey, Maggette - Celtics Blog - Boston.com


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The Celtics have made contract offers to two forwards: Their own free agent, James Posey, and Clippers free agent Corey Maggette, sources told the Boston Globe. The most the Celtics could offer is the mid-level exception (about $5.8 million), and it's doubtful that they could sign both players. The terms of the offers were not disclosed.


Posey averaged 7.4 points and 4.4 rebounds in 2007-08 and was a NBA Sixth Man of the Year candidate in his first season with Boston. The two-time NBA champion was a strong leader for the Celtics and opted out of the second year of a two-year deal on Monday to become an unrestricted free agent. Maggette averaged 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds last season for the Clippers and played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.
Someone wake up Joe!

I'm a little confused as to what that means. Did they lowball Posey? or are they able to offer the MLE to Magette because . . . ?
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Posey is a product of his environment.

He looked really good standing behind Garnett, Pierce, and Allen, didn't he?

He even looked alright hiding behind DWade and Shaq.

On this team he would be another run of the mill backup 3.

For the money, he might even suck wearing a Pistons uni.

We will have all agreed on a disparaging name for him before XMas.
Posey has two rings..more than all of those other underachieving Pistons other than Hunter and Dumars himself. I say if the guy is available go get him. He was available last summer and we took Hayes.

If Joe has a chance at him and he waits to long thinking about it, we will be having this same conversation next year second guessing our decison to pass on him when he gets his third ring ----this time playing with Kobe, Bynum Gasol, and Fisher

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I'm a little confused as to what that means. Did they lowball Posey? or are they able to offer the MLE to Magette because . . . ?
I think Posey opted out because he was gambling someone would offer him something close to the full MLE, for four or five years. The Celtics can use their full MLE to sign either of these guys. As can the Pistons if Joe D is willing to spend it all on one player. I believe Orlando has also offered the MLE to Maggette.
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Re: Pistons Targeting Posey?

Can we say cheap cheap cheap!!!! I rather have Maggette than Posey. I think Maggette puts up better numbers and rebounds better. Also he is from the Midwest so he might not mind coming here. I say give him the full MLE and give him an opportunity to compete to be your starting SF. Let the competition begin. The best player is the starter.
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I think Posey opted out because he was gambling someone would offer him something close to the full MLE, for four or five years. The Celtics can use their full MLE to sign either of these guys. As can the Pistons if Joe D is willing to spend it all on one player. I believe Orlando has also offered the MLE to Maggette.
But they made offers to both, so did they split the MLE between them ? If so, that's pretty idiotic IMO.
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I think Posey opted out because he was gambling someone would offer him something close to the full MLE, for four or five years. The Celtics can use their full MLE to sign either of these guys. As can the Pistons if Joe D is willing to spend it all on one player. I believe Orlando has also offered the MLE to Maggette.
When it happens that dumars won't get any of these then please, folks, save this forum from "ohwhyohwhy dumards didn sign with [name], you lazy ass dumars" like statements.

Dumars may beg somebody 24/7 but if begged refuses, it is not GM's fault.
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