Pistons Targeting Posey? - Page 6 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community

roscoe36 · #51 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Tater

You're making me homesick talking about that food. My first return trip to Michigan since moving here comes at the end of this month. Real Coneys, Buddys Pizza, real Chinese food, Frankenmuth.

I wanna do it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankenmuth!!!!!

Tha Locstah · #52 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

Can you all be logical for a minute. Posey OPTED OUT of like $3.5Mill, so he's going to want more than that. The full MLE will give him a 5 year $40 mill deal!!!! For a guy over 30 to play 15-20mpg.....gimme a break. Joe needs "A" Posey, not Posey. Simply put, when the C's and Heat picked Posey up nobody knew he would contibute as well as he did to the SYSTEM, he was an unexpected - pleasant surprise. We need to find a player who will be an unexpected pleasant surprise. Believe it or not, it's the scrubs you gamble on that make the difference. Joe needs a SCRUB!!!!! Not an overpriced/overhyped MLE BUST....can you say Naz-Mo!!!!

Wow. Do you watch the NBA? Without blinders on? Posey is nowhere near an overpriced/overhyped MLE BUST. He was a solid player when he was with the Nuggets, Rockets and Grizzlies. He was a key contributor for Miami in their run to the Championship in 2006 and therefore I think it's safe to say that Ainge knew exactly what he was getting when he signed Posey. He is not some "scrub" who happened to sneak up on the league. He is a solid player who brings very important skills to the table. Skills that are need by a role player to win a championship like defense, intensity, EFFORT, hustle, focus (seems to ALWAYS hit that wide open 3), etc. These used to be staples of the Detroit Pistons! We need to clean house and bring in players who are going to represent Deeeetroit Baaaasketballll!!!!!!!

If you need to see for yourself from a numbers standpoint how consistent Posey has been (the past few years have been no fluke) go ahead and checkout his stats. He's provided the same to every team he's played for.

NBA.com : James Posey Career Stats Page

FYI, the MLE is only worth 6 million if I'm correct. That would make the max he would get a 4 year 24 million contract. I think we could get him for 4.5 to 5 million a year though which would make it a 3 or 4 year 13.5 to 20 million deal. If he provides to the Pistons what he has provided to EVERY team he's played for during his ENTIRE career, it will be well worth the price IMO.

Tha Locstah · #53 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshPrince22

Giving Posey the Full MLE for 4 years or so would completely solve our desperate backup SF need that has been ongoing since 2004. He is the perfect player for what we need. He plays his ass off on every possession. Has size to guard bigger SFs. Deadly 3-point shooter. Hits big shots. And has Rings with 2 different teams. On top of that, landing him would be a huge blow to the Celtics bench.

Amen! IMO, if we are able to sign Posey we may not need a trade that completely guts this team. Maybe trade one of our starters for equal value to mix things up and keep the team mostly intact.

Ernie the Slow Adult · #54 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

Can you all be logical for a minute. Posey OPTED OUT of like $3.5Mill, so he's going to want more than that. The full MLE will give him a 5 year $40 mill deal!!!! For a guy over 30 to play 15-20mpg.....gimme a break. Joe needs "A" Posey, not Posey. Simply put, when the C's and Heat picked Posey up nobody knew he would contibute as well as he did to the SYSTEM, he was an unexpected - pleasant surprise. We need to find a player who will be an unexpected pleasant surprise. Believe it or not, it's the scrubs you gamble on that make the difference. Joe needs a SCRUB!!!!! Not an overpriced/overhyped MLE BUST....can you say Naz-Mo!!!!

I hear you on this and I can go either way. This would have been a GREAT signing last year, but now it kind of points to Joe and the Pistons being a step behind instaed of a step ahead. I could definitely see him not getting the same open look/3's here playing with the stumbling triplets that he got from Pierce/Rondo/Allen or Wade and co. (aka as players who can dribble without falling over.)

On the other hand, he hasn't played a ton of minutes over his career and at worst would upgrade their D and rebounding. He would also give a real annoying presence/flopper that, unfortunately, seems to be necessary these days in the L. He could be a galvanizing force on D that allows everything else to fall back into place.

How many teams can offer him more than the MLE? The tail end of the deal should make him trade fodder. I admit I do not care what the 2012 team looks like. Trent Plaisted should be more than enough to make up for any weakness by then.

Pietrius while gifted is brain dead sometimes. Jones has 1 and done written all over him.

Dlev59 · #55 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by armygirl

I don't like Posey or his ridiculous mouthpiece. I would rather have Pietrius who is essentially a younger Posey with a mean streak and a wicked right hand.

Cosigned.

Or Magette.

Dlev59 · #56 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dba

I'd assume he thinks, probably rightly, that this is his best chance to get a max MLE contract with some years on it, and that Boston won't go further into tax land to pay him that.

Hmmm, perhaps he is happy with just two rings. For him to bolt and win one with another team would be pretty cool.

We all have to feed our families. I know I would be in trouble with just a MLE contract for one or two years!!

**dba** · #57 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Celtics have now also made offers to both Maggette and to Posey.

RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Celtics Extend Offer To Corey Maggette

Tha Locstah · #58 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dba

Celtics have now also made offers to both Maggette and to Posey.

RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Celtics Extend Offer To Corey Maggette

I forget.........who have the Pistons made an offer to?

Mike Honcho · #59 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CloudWalker

Posey is this summers Olowokandi for forumites.

In two years everyone will look back on this summer and be glad Joe didnt sign him.

I doubt we will be glad we didn't sign him, he is a very good player (I have thought highly of him for a few years and always wondered why he struggled to get a decent contract) but I will be glad we didn't throw him the max contract we can offer. If Joe thinks as highly of this Sharpe guy as he says he does it doesn't make a lot of sense to sign another SF when we having glaring needs at center.

Curry is gonna go with a defense we played previously. More "man to man" that isn't really man to man because of the help defense . We need that big shot blocker/defender in the middle to prevent all of the easy shots. IMO perimeter D is overrated because perimeter shooting is so hit and miss, the key is stopping those easy shots (layups,etc.).

anakin · #60 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 03:43 PM

Ken Holland vs. Joe D, Wings just signed Marian Hossa after winning the Cup. Shows that atleast one Detroit team is serious about winning and is always on the look out to improve themselves.